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High Rollers

#1

I have a question for some of you high rollers out there.

I am in Vegas staying at the Palazzo.

I happened to notice 3 young men sitting next to eachother playing
video poker.

They all were playing 10 hands at a time and they were playing at the
$2 level. That is $100/hand using my calculations.

They were playing for hours as fast as one can play. I saw one guy
hit one royal for $8000 and another hit royals 2 different times for
$8000 each.

My questions are:

How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.
What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.
How do you know when to stop when you are winning?

I am a lowly quarter player. I try to play as perfectly as I can,
but I rarely go home a winner. I am a bit awe struck at playing for
this kind of money.

Thank you for any input you can give me.
Craig Kleinberg

#2

I'd start off with $4000 to play with.
I'd give up after losing about $12000.
I'd quit when I had acheived the amount of play that I had targeted.
If I was on a hot streak I would keep playing after I reached my target until I gave back $4000.

I base this on my own experience playing 10 play quarter 9/6 JB.

Regards

A.P.

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From: ck6266 <ck6266@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] High Rollers
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:04 PM

How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.
What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.
How do you know when to stop when you are winning?

#3

I don't like to beat a dead horse and it appears that my original
posting didn't seem to attract very much interest nor did it spark
much discussion.

BUT,

The young men I referred to in my initial posting were playing at
least 20hands/minute or 120 hands/hour.

By my calculations, they were putting in excess of $120,000 through
the machines every hour. They played for at least 20 hours straight!!

Is this such a common occurrance that it doesn't even deserve a
comment by someone who plays at that level?

I have a question for some of you high rollers out there.

I am in Vegas staying at the Palazzo.

I happened to notice 3 young men sitting next to eachother playing
video poker.

They all were playing 10 hands at a time and they were playing at

the

$2 level. That is $100/hand using my calculations.

They were playing for hours as fast as one can play. I saw one guy
hit one royal for $8000 and another hit royals 2 different times

for

$8000 each.

My questions are:

How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.
What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.
How do you know when to stop when you are winning?

I am a lowly quarter player. I try to play as perfectly as I can,
but I rarely go home a winner. I am a bit awe struck at playing

for

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this kind of money.

Thank you for any input you can give me.
Craig Kleinberg

#4

oh we were playing way more than that.

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I don't like to beat a dead horse and it appears that my original
posting didn't seem to attract very much interest nor did it spark
much discussion.

BUT,

The young men I referred to in my initial posting were playing at
least 20hands/minute or 120 hands/hour.

#5

Dear Craig: You really do not have to look very far to see people who have one heck of a lot more money than you or I. Roy

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----- Original Message -----
  From: ck6266
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:46 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: High Rollers

  I don't like to beat a dead horse and it appears that my original
  posting didn't seem to attract very much interest nor did it spark
  much discussion.

  BUT,

  The young men I referred to in my initial posting were playing at
  least 20hands/minute or 120 hands/hour.

  By my calculations, they were putting in excess of $120,000 through
  the machines every hour. They played for at least 20 hours straight!!

  Is this such a common occurrance that it doesn't even deserve a
  comment by someone who plays at that level?

  --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ck6266" <ck6266@...> wrote:
  >
  > I have a question for some of you high rollers out there.
  >
  > I am in Vegas staying at the Palazzo.
  >
  > I happened to notice 3 young men sitting next to eachother playing
  > video poker.
  >
  > They all were playing 10 hands at a time and they were playing at
  the
  > $2 level. That is $100/hand using my calculations.
  >
  > They were playing for hours as fast as one can play. I saw one guy
  > hit one royal for $8000 and another hit royals 2 different times
  for
  > $8000 each.
  >
  > My questions are:
  >
  > How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.
  > What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.
  > How do you know when to stop when you are winning?
  >
  > I am a lowly quarter player. I try to play as perfectly as I can,
  > but I rarely go home a winner. I am a bit awe struck at playing
  for
  > this kind of money.
  >
  > Thank you for any input you can give me.
  > Craig Kleinberg
  >

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#6

"One man's nickel is another man's dime."

I was once betting $100/hand at blackjack at Luxor and a
young fellow walked up behind me and watched. I turned
around and noticed the shocked look on his face --
"Are you betting $100 chips!!??" he exclaimed.

I recognized the look on his face. It was the same
way I had looked when I had watched a lady playing $6000
per hand a year earlier.

MV.

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> I am in Vegas staying at the Palazzo.
>
> I happened to notice 3 young men sitting next to eachother
> playing video poker.
>
> They all were playing 10 hands at a time and they were playing at
> the $2 level. That is $100/hand using my calculations.
>
> They were playing for hours as fast as one can play. I saw one guy
> hit one royal for $8000 and another hit royals 2 different times for
> $8000 each.

#7

> How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.

At the minimum, at least one bet, beyond that is up to you and doesn't
make much difference. As other posters have pointed out, there are
sometimes problems with cashouts over $2,000 or $1,200 etc. which
varies with the casino and is something you simply learn by experience.

> What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.

Stop loss limit is very important, it's more commonly called "bankroll".
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Bank.htm
Dunbar has a short term bankroll calculator, long term Kelly bankroll
can be easily estimated in your head at variance/advantage bets or
exactly calculated if you know the math.

> How do you know when to stop when you are winning?

You can't "time the market" if each hand is independent of prior
hands, which is supposedly true of video poker.

http://www.strictlyslots.com/archive/0404ss/begin.html

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