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"Hidden" Plays

#1

Well if anyone knows of any decent paytables for .25 at any harrahs property I would love to know abou themt. I use my diamond status for all my vistors threw out the year but I am having a hard time playing 8/5 dbl dbl LOL :slight_smile:

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From: Guru Perf <guruperf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: "Hidden" Plays
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 12:09 PM

聽聽聽聽聽聽I can understand, and empathize with your opinions expressed below. Yes, VP has become considerably more "tight" than it used to be. But this is not the first time something like this has happened, and I'm quite certain it will not be the last. On Wall St. many investment systems existed for years, and until they became publicized and jumped on by everyone, were very profitable. The January Effect, Dogs of the Dow, Sell in May and Go Away, the Nifty Fifty come readily to mind.

For a number of years in the '70's especially, betting pro football could be just as lucrative, maybe more so than the "early days" of VP. Before widespread use of computers, there were any number of solid systems that could be gleaned from dedicated studies of years & years of past results. These systems yielded 75% & better results, 99.5 % of them betting against the public (and perceived wisdom). But that went away and those of us who were able to capitalize on it enjoyed it while it was available. And then moved on.

Whenever the "public", the "masses", the "crowd" becomes aware of something, inevitably it will turn around and become a losing scheme. So the only options are to either give it up, or just enjoy VP for the entertainment value, factoring in the bennies & perks that casinos are willing to throw in along the way. If I'm happy to have a 3-4 day expenses paid vacation, see a show or two, and have the chance of hitting a royal or some bonus quads, for the same price (or if you get lucky, much much less than) what you'd pay to go to some resort, where your only possible "extra" is a case of sunburn, well then, so be it.

Personally, I enjoy the give-and-take of the groups, the occasional nugget of good inside info, and most especially the hard work of the folks who try to make VPFree a source of solid information on the most playable machines around.

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when I find something, you better believe I'm not just going to give it away. It's not a personal thing at all, it's my business, your hobby, and if you understood how lucrative this deal once was before the public got wind of it, then maybe you can understand the concept where I'm not a charity (neither is the casino, BTW).

VPFree has cost me a ton of money over the years, and inevitably, IMHO, they will kill pretty much profitable VP overall.

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#2

Im sure sites like this have cost the house abit. The thing is casinos have become more and more greedy. Case in point 6-5 BJ and, peole playing it.

I play 9-6 JoB and you should see the hotid playes people make. Gutshots, 3 to the flush with no conecting cards, hold high pair, etc etc.

Most bars have horid paytables and the public sits in a bar and drops a ton of money. Why wouldnt a casino change paytables seeing that bars make so much money with the shity PT? Being an investor in a casino I would love them to drop the PT to NV minimum. We would do just fine because most people are ignorant. As a player I want to get as much bang for my buk as possible. Where do the two meet? 92.05%94.34% 94.82% 96.77% 98.94% 99.81% 99.89% 100.36% 100.76% DW. Players make your choice investors yours Lets see where we fall.

#3

That's easy to predict. The Nevada casinos will tighten up until they run out of clueless tourists willing to get fleeced. As business drops off (it already has), some bright person will get the idea to run promotions to increase business again. But will the business come back? Why gamble in Nevada when the nearby California casinos offer a much better product and probably always will because they have higher volume and less debt and overhead?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "steve" <radek2166@...> wrote:

As a player I want to get as much bang for my buk as possible. Where do the two meet? 92.05%94.34% 94.82% 96.77% 98.94% 99.81% 99.89% 100.36% 100.76% DW. Players make your choice investors yours Lets see where we fall.

#4

I can't believe it when I see people playing 6-5 blackjack. And it's not just one or two people, I see tables that are full. Unbelievable.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:06:08 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: "Hidden" Plays

聽聽聽聽聽聽--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "steve" <radek2166@...> wrote:

As a player I want to get as much bang for my buk as possible. Where do the two meet? 92.05%94.34% 94.82% 96.77% 98.94% 99.81% 99.89% 100.36% 100.76% DW. Players make your choice investors yours Lets see where we fall.

That's easy to predict. The Nevada casinos will tighten up until they run out of clueless tourists willing to get fleeced. As business drops off (it already has), some bright person will get the idea to run promotions to increase business again. But will the business come back? Why gamble in Nevada when the nearby California casinos offer a much better product and probably always will because they have higher volume and less debt and overhead?

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#5

hold high pair, etc etc.

ment to say have to pair and have JoB and just hold high pair hoping to get 4ofkind