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Hi - Dave - follow up

Hi Mark!

I saw your email earlier today, and then I saw it posted to the vpFREE chatroom too, though I recognize you were attempting to reach me privately. I thank you for your fine remarks, and I shall review them again, to assure I don't miss something.

It happens that it's after my bedtime now, so I'll actually get to a detailed response tomorrow. When I went to the chatroom your note was gone, and I don't know how to pull this message from the chatroom, as I'm new to the chatroom.

Dave

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Mark
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:43 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Hi - Dave - follow up

  I enjoyed your comment to my reply. You're welcome!

  Your very first post showed such general confusion that I hesitated
  to chime in with advice. Sometimes here on vpFree, when you join a
  thread, you subject yourself to criticism from the other wanna-be
  experts. So, I am careful with my words.

  But, I thought I would send this private e-mail instead of posting
  on vpFree so I don't have to be as careful.

  When I wrote my reply, I felt like the old guy passing wisdom to the
  new guy. Turns out you are 68, I am 47, and you have quite a bit of
  casino experience already - craps - and all that is new to you is
  the game of video poker and the game of getting freebies (comps)
  from the casino/hotel.

  About me: I live in Seattle, work at Boeing as an engineer for
  nearly 27 years now. I moved here from my hometown of Buffalo after
  getting a Civil Engrg degree from Univ of Buffalo (SUNY/Buffalo). I
  have two sons, aged 16 & 17. I've been divorced for 10 yrs after a
  10-yr marriage. My other passions are poker and Scrabble.

  I only began serious video poker using strategy in year 2000 or so.
  I caught on to the comp game in 2002, and it's been free Suites,
  food, limos and very good cash bonuses for about 3 yrs now. I play
  exclusively in Reno for a couple reasons: airfare and flight time is
  low from Seattle. I dislike crowds and I've found full pay VP at my
  two Reno casinos: Silver Legacy and Peppermill. These are classy
  joints, and even if it's not like the LV Strip, I feel quite
  spoiled. I play 25c, 50c and $1 denom about equally. Single line
  mostly, 3-play and 5-play maybe 25% of the time. I have a trip
  budget of about $3000, so I think I SHOULD stick to quarters, but I
  risk it and play up. I average about $20,000 of coin-in per day and
  play about 11 hrs per day on the average.

  Because I'm working, I have to pre-schedule my travel plans, so I
  do not respond to special "Offers". With a host, I get free
  everything on MY schedule. I have no interest in seeing shows,
  fights, boobs or any sort of party when I go to Reno. I'm there to
  play VP only, I usually play til I drop, sleep, get up and do it
  again the next day. I guess I'm obsessed, but I really enjoy
  myself.

  I plan to retire in 7 yrs and 2 months, the month after I turn 55.
  If I'm still enjoying VP then, I imagine it will become a more
  frequent hobby.
  ==============
  So, the reason I wrote - I think your theory that the casino/hotel
  might make special short-notice offers, to fill up the hotel during
  slow periods, is not a reality. Not that I know of. I've never
  gotten such an e-mail or snail mailing. maybe there is an internet
  site that can get you these deals, but that's not thru the slot club
  or marketing directly.

  There might be two levels of mailings: one for anyone who is in
  their database and some extra invite/offers for medium-to-high
  rollers (upper level(s) of their slot card hierarchy.). But the
  Reno places I know of send those out almost daily with some new
  tournament or show or hokey event that lures you in. Room is free
  for one, two, three nights. Tournament entry fees are reduced or
  waived. These are marketing offers and you might be in a flexible
  position to make use of and benefit from these offers.

  For this first VP trip for you, if you are truly "shopping" for a HQ
  casino, and you are willing to travel around and split your time up
  between, say, 7 casinos to give them each an even chunk of your time
  (and maybe bankroll), then that's a valid plan. It might take a
  month for the offers to come rolling in, so, hopefully you won't be
  sitting there watching the mailbox.

  I think if you stick to quarters (a smart move until you get
  comfortable or until your bankroll grows and you get antsy for more
  risk) that it'll be hard to even get a Host in Las Vegas. So, the
  marketing offers is the way to go when you're starting off.

  And, another comment about playing Jacks or Better. It is THE
  perfect starter game, and is almost a requirement in the VP world
  to "get" JoB before you try other games. No reason to rush to play
  other games. To give you a near equivalent "taste" for other games,
  you could also try BONUS poker. Not Double Bonus and Not Double
  Double Bonus. Just plain old BONUS.
  It has 8-1 for FH, 5-1 payoff for Flush (as opposed to 9/6 in JoB).
  BONUS has 40-1 payoff for quad 2s,3s & 4s and 80-1 for quad As.
  That's the bonus part. It has the exact same strategy for what
  cards to hold as JoB. It's long-term EV is 99.17% (JoB is 99.54%).
  I prefer it over JoB myself even with the fractionally lower EV.

  I'll save my feelings on long term EV's for a future discussion.
  EV doesn't matter when you are winning.

  Anyhow, I gotta go. Gotta catch a plane to Reno! I'm playing in a
  Scrabble tournament at the Hilton, but take a guess how I'll fill my
  evenings...! I'm in a Suite at the Peppermill. Cheers!

  ~MARK

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