Ditto here....I don't plan on upping my play to qualify as Sagamore. I'm
currently Sagamore, but I rarely use the show tickets, spend a night (free)
there perhaps once every other month. The only thing I use are the player's
lounges and some of the giveaway events; not enough to justify spending the
money and time. I primarily like to run down in the morning and play before it
gets busy; if I want to remain Sagamore I'm going to have to stay longer or go
down more often, neither of which appeals to me. I wondered if the change
in points is to reduce the number of Sagamores - seems like some events have a
huge turnout (WineFest).
Sandy
In a message dated 1/21/2009 2:14:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
russwin1@verizon.net writes:
The fact that the .25 and the $1 VP earns points at the same rate now
annoys me since it makes qualification for the clubs about 55% harder
to achieve. This change kept my wife from making sagamore (we were
not willing to up our play to meet their "new" standard. I have
played less there because of it. -Russ
— In _vpFREE@yahoogroups.vpF_ (mailto:vpF…@…com) , Guru Perf
<guruperf@…g> wrote:
MS's policies do tend to distort one's play, I agree. The
appearance of those "Check Your Status" terminals has eliminated the
guesswork about qualification for Sagamore, for example, but it has
also allowed me to avoid short-play days. Until I reach Sagamore, my
wife & I play on my cards. Once I get to Sagamore, I play on my
wife's card, and just build up her points. That allows me to avoid
shopping in Yankee Candle & the Almanac store ; )
What I would prefer would be a trip-based, rather than a day-based
system. E.G., if I go for a 2 night stay, which would encompass
3 "play-days", look at the entire trip, instead of a 3 day average.
We have a 2 hour trip to MS, so if we arrive at 1PM on day 1, and
leave relatively early on day 3 (11AM or so), my average day suffers.
But if you look at it as 1 trip, consisting of ~48 hours, the average
per 24 hour day is quite different.
____________ ____ ____
At Mohegan Sun ("MS"), my primary casino in the East, most benefits
are determined on daily average theo, with a day based solely on
play. Theo % varies from game to game. In order to maximize ADT
many
players play on spouse's card one day, then both on the other
spouse's another day. [One friend has even proposed even larger
alternating groups.] If they are staying overnight they avoid
short
play on the getaway day, unless they arrange with a host for the
play
to be credited to the prior day. As I do not enjoy long sessions, I
find trying to game this system to be a negative. MS's policy is
designed to attract high rollers and is more attuned to a
destination
casino than a locals', even though I would surmise that the
majority
of its business is in the area. The result may be the creation of
pseudo high rollers rather than attracting legitimate ones.Local LV casinos looking more to total play than ADT seems
sensible,
as such perks as BBC may engender more trips per month with a
greater dollars volume, but benefits based on ADT are unlikely to
change $0.25 players to dollars players or dollars to five.Perhaps as system where all perks and comps including high roller
lounge visits, theater tickets, tournament entries, rooms, etc. are
noted and "charged" to a players discretionary account is the most
fair, but could be burdensome for the casinos. In any event, I am
not
enamored with having to tailor my play to maximize benefits, as
this
interferes with the recreational aspect on VP, but I hate foregoing
legitimate benefits.David
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