Just from looking at the database, it doesn't seem that there is
anything playable at any Harrah's owned property in all of Vegas in $1
or lower denominations. Am I missing something?
I was hoping to re-earn 7 star status, but with nothing playable, it's
just not worth it.
Thanks in advance,
John
Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
or $5 single hand games. Always stay at Paris because they keep giving
me free rooms and I cant turn them down!
The DataBase index page shows $1 9/6 JoB @ Harrahs
and Flamingo, 25c/50c/$1 8/5 BP @ Paris, and several
games at Circus.
vpFae
On 3 Jul 2007 at 8:45, john_chinnock wrote:
Just from looking at the database, it doesn't seem that there is
anything playable at any Harrah's owned property in all of Vegas in $1
or lower denominations. Am I missing something?
> Just from looking at the database, it doesn't seem that there is
> anything playable at any Harrah's owned property in all of Vegas in
$1
> or lower denominations. Am I missing something?
The DataBase index page shows $1 9/6 JoB @ Harrahs
and Flamingo
Note that the theo on the machines at Caesars, Harrahs and Flamingo are
all essentially zero (about 0.25%). If you are currently receiving
valuable offers from HET LV properties, you are better off stiffing
them. Even heavy play ($100K+) on these near zero theo machines will
have a negative effect on your ADT.
Harrahs is stubborn when it comes to mail. They'll let you stand them
up a few times before they cut you off. 
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpFae" <vpFae@...> wrote:
On 3 Jul 2007 at 8:45, john_chinnock wrote:
Check the DataBase:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/LV.htm
vpFae
On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:51, dcmidnight2 wrote:
Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
or $5 single hand games ...
Is there a DataBase for Laughlin like this? Could you please post the site? Thanks:)
vpFae <vpFae@Cox.net> wrote: On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:51, dcmidnight2 wrote:
> Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
> games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
> or $5 single hand games ...
Check the DataBase:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/LV.htm
vpFae
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Yes thank you I have and always do check it. I guess I should have
been more clear - I was hoping that someone had some information,
possibly from a trip there, that was more current than 7 months old.
Thanks.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpFae" <vpFae@...> wrote:
On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:51, dcmidnight2 wrote:
> Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
> games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
> or $5 single hand games ...Check the DataBase:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/LV.htm
vpFae
Main vpFREE link:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
vpFREE Laughlin link:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/L.htm
Dennis
vp-connoisseur
Money Works asked...
Is there a DataBase for Laughlin like this? Could you please post the site? Thanks:)
> Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
> games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
> or $5 single hand games ...Check the DataBase:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/LV.htm
vpFae
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vpFae <vpFae@Cox.net> wrote: On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:51, dcmidnight2 wrote:
> > Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
> > games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
> > or $5 single hand games ...
> Check the DataBase:
> vpFae
On 4 Jul 2007 at 13:10, dcmidnight2 replied:
Yes thank you I have and always do check it. I guess I should have
been more clear - I was hoping that someone had some information,
possibly from a trip there, that was more current than 7 months old.
Thanks.
The date on a casino DataBase page reflects the last
time that a change was made to that page. The working
assumption should be that no changes have occurred
since then or they would have been reported and the
DataBase would have been updated.
If anyone has different, more current information that they
are willing to share, they should have already done so (unless
it is very recent), since all vpFREE members are expected to
report DataBase inventory changes in casinos they visit.
vpFae
> On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:51, dcmidnight2 wrote:
Thanks:)
Cielaszyk <cacti-az@cox.net> wrote: Main vpFREE link:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
vpFREE Laughlin link:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/L.htm
Dennis
vp-connoisseur
Money Works asked...
>Is there a DataBase for Laughlin like this? Could you please post the site? Thanks:)
>
>
> > Along the same lines, I would also be interested in what playable
> > games are at the $1/$5 level at Paris/Ballys. I usually play $1 5 hand
> > or $5 single hand games ...
>
> Check the DataBase:
>
> http://members.cox.net/vpfree/LV.htm
>
> vpFae
>
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vpFae <vpFae@Cox.net> wrote: On 3 Jul 2007 at 11:51, dcmidnight2 wrote:
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Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Note that the theo on the machines at Caesars, Harrahs and Flamingo are
all essentially zero (about 0.25%). If you are currently receiving
valuable offers from HET LV properties, you are better off stiffing
them. Even heavy play ($100K+) on these near zero theo machines will
have a negative effect on your ADT.
I found that out the hard way this week when I ran a ton of play on the 9/6 at The Flame and
my ADT18 dropped $200. Do the $5 JOB machines at Ballys/Paris/Rio have a decent theo?
I found that out the hard way this week when I ran a ton of play on
the 9/6 at The Flame and
my ADT18 dropped $200. Do the $5 JOB machines at Ballys/Paris/Rio
have a decent theo?
What is ADT 18?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tbf1020" <tbf1020@...> wrote:
The date on a casino DataBase page reflects the last
time that a change was made to that page. The working
assumption should be that no changes have occurred
since then or they would have been reported and the
DataBase would have been updated.If anyone has different, more current information that they
are willing to share, they should have already done so (unless
it is very recent), since all vpFREE members are expected to
report DataBase inventory changes in casinos they visit.vpFae
Well how often does a monitor check the machines? I would more bet on
the fact that no one has checked and reported anything over Harrah's
not changing any paytables or machines at Ballys or Paris in 6 months.
Instead of last update, maybe the index should list when it was last
checked. If no update was made thats fine, but it would be nice to
know when it was last checked.
You don't seem to get how the system works. The monitor may check an
inventory frequently or not even once a year. In either case a monitor is
expected to note changes reported on vpFREE or transmitted to him privately
via e mail. The fact that there has been no change to the Paris page of the
DB indicates that there have been no reports of change since the last change
date. In the case of Bally's/Paris, my recollection is that changes to
their inventory have been reported in pretty short order. I have read each
change, the removal of $JB, PE, Super Aces, NSUD, etc, with regret. This
casino gets enough traffic that inventory changes seem to be reported pretty
quickly after the change. If you visit Paris/Bally's and notice a deviation
from the database it is up to you to report it on vpFREE or to the casino
monitor.
Chandler
-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com]On Behalf Of
dcmidnight2
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:42 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Harrah's properties playable games
The date on a casino DataBase page reflects the last
time that a change was made to that page. The working
assumption should be that no changes have occurred
since then or they would have been reported and the
DataBase would have been updated.If anyone has different, more current information that they
are willing to share, they should have already done so (unless
it is very recent), since all vpFREE members are expected to
report DataBase inventory changes in casinos they visit.vpFae
Well how often does a monitor check the machines? I would more bet on
the fact that no one has checked and reported anything over Harrah's
not changing any paytables or machines at Ballys or Paris in 6 months.
Instead of last update, maybe the index should list when it was last
checked. If no update was made thats fine, but it would be nice to
know when it was last checked.
vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
Yahoo! Groups Links
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deuceswild1000" <deuceswild1000@...>
wrote:
What is ADT 18?
ADT=Average Daily Theo, and #18 is the rating (we believe) for the
last six visits to a Harrah's property.
Drew
Hi Drew!
Since I know that you are a frequent and knowledgeable Harrah's
player, can you eludidate on the "ratings"? i.e., is #18 a "good
enough ADT" rating to encourage strong offers from HET? If not,
what ADT number rating would a player need in order to receive free
room offers at high end HET properties?
Thanks!
~Babe~
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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deuceswild1000" <deuceswild1000@> wrote:
In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Sterling" <vpdeuces@...> wrote:
ADT=Average Daily Theo, and #18 is the rating (we believe) for the
last six visits to a Harrah's property.
Drew
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:
Since I know that you are a frequent and knowledgeable Harrah's
player, can you eludidate on the "ratings"? i.e., is #18 a "good
enough ADT" rating to encourage strong offers from HET? If not,
what ADT number rating would a player need in order to receive
free
room offers at high end HET properties?
Hi Babe:
I don't know about the "knowledgeable" part of your description.
Most knowledgeable players seem to have moved on from Harrah's (with
good reason), but I'll try to expound on what I know, or believe.
#18 is a list number in the Total Rewards data which a host can look
at, such as #18 is your 6-trip ADT, #19 is your one year ADT, etc.
Hosts at Harrah's will sometimes discuss your ADT with you if you
ask the right questions in the right way. And sometimes not.
I don't know what a good ADT score is, or what minimum rating one
would need to receive better offers, and I don't know if anyone
does. My best guess is it's a moving target. We talk about these
things constantly in the Harrah's Yahoo! group and on the LVA
message boards (where I'm just a lurker). In my experience, you
will receive basic room offers based on your Tier status (Gold,
Platinum, Diamond, Cubic Zirconia). Additional offers then come
from your "home" property--every Harrah's player has a home, and you
can request a change.
The biggest difference I've seen is based on what you play. A friend
and I have been comparing offers for about a year. We have
maintained similar ADT and Tier scores, but he receives many more
tournament offers, and most of his special offers are on weekends
and mine are not. He plays 75% vp and the rest carnival games and
slots. I play 95% vp and 3% craps. I've also been having a good
year in 2007, which may affect my offers. As always, YMMV.
Drew
........#18 is a list number in the Total Rewards data which a host
can look at, such as #18 is your 6-trip ADT, #19 is your one year
ADT, etc. Hosts at Harrah's will sometimes discuss your ADT with you
if you ask the right questions in the right way. And sometimes
not.......
........In my experience, you will receive basic room offers based
on your Tier status (Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Cubic Zirconia).
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Sterling" <vpdeuces@...> wrote:
=======================================================
Hi Drew,
Thanks for the answer! I guess that I can't find out what my ADT
number is because of my "tier" classification. I have been very
recently elevated to the prestigious Cubic Zirconia level!
I presume then, that my "home" casino is Harrahs/Ak Chin, in AZ.
That's the only Harrah's casino that I've patronized in about the
last 8 years. That would be pretty weird, since I'm only in AZ for
three weeks, each Spring, during the Cub's spring training games.
OTOH, we used to visit Harrahs/Lake Tahoe, each August. We did that
for many years, but quit when they decimated their VP inventory.
Since I get many offers, including free flights, that involve
Northern Nevada, I'd guess that's my "home" casino.
Anyway, thanks for your answer!
~Babe~
I see again discussion on the Prop 18 and 19 but am now left in the
dark as to how to find it out. Before we could view the source code on
the reservation page but now it is a string of 30 plus numbers that I
cannot make heads or tails of. Other than asking a host, any other way
to find out? Thanks in advance.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Sterling" <vpdeuces@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deuceswild1000" <deuceswild1000@>
wrote:
>
> What is ADT 18?
>ADT=Average Daily Theo, and #18 is the rating (we believe) for the
last six visits to a Harrah's property.Drew
A little late buy what is the actual harrah's yahoo group address thanks
john
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Sterling" <vpdeuces@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" jackessiebabe@
wrote:> Since I know that you are a frequent and knowledgeable Harrah's
> player, can you eludidate on the "ratings"? i.e., is #18 a "good
> enough ADT" rating to encourage strong offers from HET? If not,
> what ADT number rating would a player need in order to receive
free
> room offers at high end HET properties?Hi Babe:
I don't know about the "knowledgeable" part of your description.
Most knowledgeable players seem to have moved on from Harrah's (with
good reason), but I'll try to expound on what I know, or believe.#18 is a list number in the Total Rewards data which a host can look
at, such as #18 is your 6-trip ADT, #19 is your one year ADT, etc.
Hosts at Harrah's will sometimes discuss your ADT with you if you
ask the right questions in the right way. And sometimes not.I don't know what a good ADT score is, or what minimum rating one
would need to receive better offers, and I don't know if anyone
does. My best guess is it's a moving target. We talk about these
things constantly in the Harrah's Yahoo! group and on the LVA
message boards (where I'm just a lurker). In my experience, you
will receive basic room offers based on your Tier status (Gold,
Platinum, Diamond, Cubic Zirconia). Additional offers then come
from your "home" property--every Harrah's player has a home, and you
can request a change.The biggest difference I've seen is based on what you play. A friend
and I have been comparing offers for about a year. We have
maintained similar ADT and Tier scores, but he receives many more
tournament offers, and most of his special offers are on weekends
and mine are not. He plays 75% vp and the rest carnival games and
slots. I play 95% vp and 3% craps. I've also been having a good
year in 2007, which may affect my offers. As always, YMMV.Drew