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Harrah's LV Update PLS

#1

The Harrah's DataBase page includes the latest inventory
information that members have chosen to share with others,
and I've seen recent reports that the $1/$2 9/6 JoB are still
there.

vpFREE Administrator

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On 22 Jul 2007 npf15251 wrote:

Please update here the $1 or higher playable games at Harrah's Las
Vegas. The database information looks quite old. Any VP game, single
or multi or STP or Spin or whatever, in or out of high limit would be
appreciated. Please include 25c if exceptional, but I don't suppose
they have anything playable at that denom

#2

vpFREE Administrator <vp_free@...> wrote:

The Harrah's DataBase page includes the latest inventory
information that members have chosen to share with others,
and I've seen recent reports that the $1/$2 9/6 JoB are still
there.

I'm going to Vegas next month on a free offer from Caesars, which has
been showering me with offers since I put in play there before VP was
downgraded.

Some people have said that Harrahs rates JOB play at such a
low "theo" that it's best for my status (i.e., for getting good
Harrahs offers) to not play at all, rather than play $10 or $20K of
JOB. I wouldn't mind playing a few hours of JOB, or even Bonus poker,
for the sake of future offers, but I certainly wouldn't do so if it'd
*hurt* future offers (relative to not playing at all).

I've already got my Diamond status through Mar 09, so that's not an
issue. There are other Harrahs locations (A.C. or Reno) where I can
play in the future to keep my Diamond status and comp account
healthy. I'm just concerned about their "avg play" stats that
determine my offers.

Sorry if this has already been talked to death and I've missed the
advice. I'd appreciate any insight on this matter, should I put in
JOB or Bonus Poker play at Harrahs LV properties, or spend my efforts
at Circus or Wynn or somewhere else that might generate future deals.

Many thanks,

Stuart (RandomStu)
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/fungames.htm

#3

The two machines outside the buffet that have $1/$2 9/6 JOB and 8/5
Bonus Poker are definitely still there. I played 'em yesterday.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpFREE Administrator <vp_free@...> wrote:

On 22 Jul 2007 npf15251 wrote:

> Please update here the $1 or higher playable games at Harrah's Las
> Vegas. The database information looks quite old. Any VP game, single
> or multi or STP or Spin or whatever, in or out of high limit would be
> appreciated. Please include 25c if exceptional, but I don't suppose
> they have anything playable at that denom

The Harrah's DataBase page includes the latest inventory
information that members have chosen to share with others,
and I've seen recent reports that the $1/$2 9/6 JoB are still
there.

vpFREE Administrator

#4

None.

TC

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On 7/21/07, vpFREE Administrator <vp_free@yahoo.com> wrote:

  On 22 Jul 2007 npf15251 wrote:

> Please update here the $1 or higher playable games at Harrah's Las
> Vegas.

#5

Playing JOB to boost/maintain your rating at any Harrah's Las Vegas
casino is no longer an option. It will only hurt your already
established rating. It would be better to take them up on their offer
and give someone else your action.

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I'm going to Vegas next month on a free offer from Caesars, which has
been showering me with offers since I put in play there before VP was
downgraded.

Some people have said that Harrahs rates JOB play at such a
low "theo" that it's best for my status (i.e., for getting good
Harrahs offers) to not play at all, rather than play $10 or $20K of
JOB. I wouldn't mind playing a few hours of JOB, or even Bonus poker,
for the sake of future offers, but I certainly wouldn't do so if it'd
*hurt* future offers (relative to not playing at all).

I've already got my Diamond status through Mar 09, so that's not an
issue. There are other Harrahs locations (A.C. or Reno) where I can
play in the future to keep my Diamond status and comp account
healthy. I'm just concerned about their "avg play" stats that
determine my offers.

Sorry if this has already been talked to death and I've missed the
advice. I'd appreciate any insight on this matter, should I put in
JOB or Bonus Poker play at Harrahs LV properties, or spend my efforts
at Circus or Wynn or somewhere else that might generate future deals.

Many thanks,

Stuart (RandomStu)
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/fungames.htm

#6

I agree. With the theo set to near zero you will no longer see any
knowledgable players on the 9/6 machines at any HET LV property. A
player is better off stiffing them and milking the mail for a few
trips.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tbf1020" <tbf1020@...> wrote:

Playing JOB to boost/maintain your rating at any Harrah's Las Vegas
casino is no longer an option. It will only hurt your already
established rating. It would be better to take them up on their offer
and give someone else your action.

#7

Is it just the 9/6 JoB or is it also the 8/5 BP and other 99+ machines?
-Dave

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "hockeystl" <vegasstl@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tbf1020" <tbf1020@> wrote:
>
> Playing JOB to boost/maintain your rating at any Harrah's Las Vegas
> casino is no longer an option. It will only hurt your already
> established rating. It would be better to take them up on their offer
> and give someone else your action.
>

I agree. With the theo set to near zero you will no longer see any
knowledgable players on the 9/6 machines at any HET LV property. A
player is better off stiffing them and milking the mail for a few
trips.

#8

>
> Playing JOB to boost/maintain your rating at any Harrah's Las

Vegas

> casino is no longer an option. It will only hurt your already
> established rating. It would be better to take them up on their

offer

> and give someone else your action.
>

I agree. With the theo set to near zero you will no longer see any
knowledgable players on the 9/6 machines at any HET LV property. A
player is better off stiffing them and milking the mail for a few
trips.

My wife and I are going to the flam. the end of august we are
comped. After hearing all about hetbeing unacceptable where would
you go play(job jw bp ddb) .25 to 5.00
thank you
john

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "hockeystl" <vegasstl@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tbf1020" <tbf1020@> wrote:

#9

REPLY/QUESTION: Does this advice apply if I'm not concerned about
discretionary comps or Bonus Reward Credits, i.e., if I only care about
maintaining my Diamond status and receiving some free-night offers by
mail and online? Alternative phrasing of question: Will playing the
JOB machines in Vegas actually HURT the quality of my mailed and online
offers? Thanks.

The GMan

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "hockeystl" <vegasstl@...> wrote:

With the theo set to near zero you will no longer see any
knowledgable players on the 9/6 machines at any HET LV property. A
player is better off stiffing them and milking the mail for a few
trips.

#10

From a basic understanding of the TR system rather than personal experience
here, my guess would be yes. Value of offers will decrease with play on
these machines. You are tripping yourself with play, but receiving a low
daily theoretical loss. Theo is what offers are based on.

Chandler

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ggman444
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:44 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Harrah's LV Stay/Play Advice

Alternative phrasing of question: Will playing the
JOB machines in Vegas actually HURT the quality of my mailed and online
offers? Thanks.

The GMan

#11

.....and that is what causes your ADT to drop, with the resultant loss of comp's, either mailed
or "on-line" ?

..... bl

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Chandler" <omnibibulous1@...> wrote:

You are tripping yourself with play, but receiving a low
daily theoretical loss.

Chandler