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#21

Anyone know about VP at the Crystal Palace in the Bahamas?

RM

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, James Thompson <jamesgthompson@...> wrote:

I just returned from The Atlantis Sunday night. I didn't check every machine because I wasn't there to gamble. But what I did see was 6/5/3/1/1 Bonus Poker at the quarter level. If you are looking to gamble, there plenty of 3/2 blackjack games.
The casino is crawling with 18 year olds, because the gambling and drinking age is 18.

james thompson
former HRH casino monitor

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: floridagambler@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 11:41:51 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] VP Bahamas

      My wife and I are planning to take the kids and grandchildren to the Atlantis Resort in Paradise Island, Nassau, Bahamas. I have always heard that the VP is poor. But how poor? Does anyone have any specifics as to what games are available? Are there any semi-decent machines? Thanks.

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#22

Jean,(and others)

I can appreciate your very thoughtful, reasoned discussion on this issue. But I can at least partially understand where some of the visceral objections come from. Until you've seen a just-barely older than toddler sitting alone on the steps of a casino entrance (very frequent occurrence at the Taj Mahal in AC back when we were still going there) or seen an infant in a stroller being wheeled around a casino at 2AM (hello, Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods)it might not hit home quite as vividly.

Because this is a VP forum, and I can only assume that the participants have no particular objection to gambling & casinos in general, I will give them the benefit of the doubt and think that they may be coming from the child-abuse angle, not the loving grandparent availing themselves and their grandkids of the amenities.

Even though I have taken my grandkids to a casino in the past it was merely an inexpensive base to take in a variety of family, especially kid-friendly, attractions, like Mystic Seaport & Mystic Aquarium. But I did instinctively react rather strongly to the suggestion of a 9 month-old at a casino because of some of the things I have witnessed in the past.

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#23

Any idea what the pay schedules were on higher denomination machines?

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From: James Thompson <jamesgthompson@hotmail.com>
To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] VP Bahamas
  
I just returned from The Atlantis Sunday night. I didn't check every machine because I wasn't there to gamble. But what I did see was 6/5/3/1/1 Bonus Poker at the quarter level. If you are looking to gamble, there plenty of 3/2 blackjack games.
The casino is crawling with 18 year olds, because the gambling and drinking age is 18.

james thompson
former HRH casino monitor

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: floridagambler@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 11:41:51 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] VP Bahamas

  My wife and I are planning to take the kids and grandchildren to the Atlantis Resort in Paradise Island, Nassau, Bahamas\.  I have always heard that the VP is poor\.  But how poor?  Does anyone have any specifics as to what games are available?  Are there any semi\-decent machines?  Thanks\.

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#24

GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:

I can appreciate your very thoughtful, reasoned discussion on this
issue. But I can at least partially understand where some of the
visceral objections come from. Until you've seen a just-barely older
than toddler sitting alone on the steps of a casino entrance (very
frequent occurrence at the Taj Mahal in AC back when we were still
going there) or seen an infant in a stroller being wheeled around a
casino at 2AM (hello, Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods)it might not hit home
quite as vividly.

This tangentially touches on what I have found missing in this thread: Any venue can be made an "inappropriate venue" through bad parenting.

Jean Scott has described how she's taken advantage of casino amenities to entertain her extended family and I think rightfully demonstrates that there's definite "family value" to be found in the casino environment.

But it should go without saying that appropriate parental supervision and judgment is a prerequisite at all times. Failing that, then it's a certainty "worst case" scenarios will develop.

Personally, if I had children, I wouldn't bring them anywhere near a casino until they were at least age 12. Quite frankly, I'd prefer to shelter them from some of the worst behavior on parade until such time as I'm sure they can discern for themselves what's appropriate and what's foolhardy in adult behavior.

But I have friends who have brought younger children on stays without incident, and who responsibly ensure that the kids are appropriately occupied, not bored, and not prone to seek out trouble. For that, I admire them.

#25

Vpwiz wrote: Personally, if I had children, I wouldn't bring them anywhere
near a casino until they were at least age 12. Quite frankly, I'd prefer to
shelter them from some of the worst behavior on parade until such time as
I'm sure they can discern for themselves what's appropriate and what's
foolhardy in adult behavior. But I have friends who have brought younger
children on stays without incident, and who responsibly ensure that the kids
are appropriately occupied, not bored, and not prone to seek out trouble.
For that, I admire them.

---Ok, I'll chime in on this one. Since I'm an old dad with a young son,
parenting alone, and I live and work in LV, and a good part of my work
involves casinos, my son is with me quite often, since a very young tot!
Now, of course he's not in the casino for anything gambling related, but we
go to many shows and concerts, and we certainly enjoy the pools and
restaurants! We often bring friends and they ice skate and we go to movies
and Kid's Tyme and Kid's Quest and bowling! They all love walking Fremont
street, the live music, dancing (we just went a week or so ago to see
America's Best Dance Crew Electrolytes perform for the opening of the Hip
Hop Internationals!) street performers and light shows. And walking the
Strip and places like the Adventure Dome at Circus Circus. He knows if he
lived anywhere else in the world he'd never see entertainment, shows and
concerts like he does here and we have a great time hanging out together.
Other times, he stays home with an adult or goes to a friend's house. I see
worse behavior in the schools here than in the casinos!

Scot

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#26

no, but there were plenty of empty seats on all the video poker machines.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: floridagambler@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:48:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] VP Bahamas

      Any idea what the pay schedules were on higher denomination machines?

________________________________

From: James Thompson <jamesgthompson@hotmail.com>

To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 3:38 PM

Subject: RE: [vpFREE] VP Bahamas

I just returned from The Atlantis Sunday night. I didn't check every machine because I wasn't there to gamble. But what I did see was 6/5/3/1/1 Bonus Poker at the quarter level. If you are looking to gamble, there plenty of 3/2 blackjack games.

The casino is crawling with 18 year olds, because the gambling and drinking age is 18.

james thompson

former HRH casino monitor

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

From: floridagambler@yahoo.com

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 11:41:51 -0700

Subject: [vpFREE] VP Bahamas

      My wife and I are planning to take the kids and grandchildren to the Atlantis Resort in Paradise Island, Nassau, Bahamas. I have always heard that the VP is poor. But how poor? Does anyone have any specifics as to what games are available? Are there any semi-decent machines? Thanks.

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