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Harrah's Cherokee--Odds vs. Paytables

#1

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Nunya Dambizness <pirogue@...> wrote:

> > I'm not really sure what odds they would "publish" on a
> > VP machine, but to me, odds aren't the same as paytables.
> > They're completely different. Am I wrong?

> Odds are determined by the paytables. Several kinds of
> software are available that will calculate the odds for each > > paytable. I usually use Tom Ski's VP Strategy Master.

Okay, but what would they publish on the machines?

I can't answer that. I was answering your other question about odds and paytables being completely different. (Odds are derived from paytables.)

It wasn't in North Carolina, but in W.Va. I saw expected returns posted on the wall at a little casino. It listed several games and their ER such as "Deuces Wild 92.5%". I imagine it was required by the state.

BTW the Palms casino has four fairly new machines by U1 Gaming that do list the returns for each game on the machine. Unfortunately they are all under 99% although I don't know for sure if the Mystery Bonus and Cards-of-the-Day features are taken into consideration.

#2

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, Nunya Dambizness <pirogue@... > wrote:

> > I'm not really sure what odds they would "publish" on a
> > VP machine, but to me, odds aren't the same as paytables.
> > They're completely different. Am I wrong?

> Odds are determined by the paytables. Several kinds of
> software are available that will calculate the odds for each > > paytable. I usually use Tom Ski's VP Strategy Master.

Okay, but what would they publish on the machines?

I can't answer that. I was answering your other question about odds and paytables being completely different. (Odds are derived
from paytables.)

It wasn't in North Carolina, but in W.Va. I saw expected returns posted on the wall at a little casino. It listed several games and
their ER such as "Deuces Wild 92.5%". I imagine it was required by the state.

I've seen a sheet near the cashier window, but it's not for specific games. It basically just had the min/max for vp/slots, in general.

I think it would be interesting if that section of the compact was actually enforced. That information is supposed to be posted directly on the games. If people stopped playing 6/5 JOB, 20/10 DW, and 8/5/4 DDB, when they saw the low payback percentages, it might lead to some better games.