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Harrah"s St. Louis

Harrahs St. Louis is goverened by Mo. law limiting losses to $500/hr. Your
card must be in the machine to allow any money to be inserted. One player must
pull their card while the other inserts money. This makes it hard for 2 people
to play on the same card unless you play side by side and syncronize buy ins.

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vpolddog said: Harrahs St. Louis is goverened by Mo. law limiting
losses to $500/hr. Your
card must be in the machine to allow any money to be inserted. One
player must
pull their card while the other inserts money. This makes it hard for 2
people
to play on the same card unless you play side by side and syncronize buy
ins.

True, if you haven't planned ahead. If you plan your trips to arrive
immediately prior to the 2-hour window (which is always on the even
hours or odd hours, depending on the casino), you can buy $500 with
cash. In a few minutes, you can buy another $500.

You don't have to insert the money into the machine. You may buy
table-game chips (black ones are $100 each, for example). And . Once you
have these, they are exchangeable for coin at any rate. And while the
machines are ticket in ticket out, you may still insert coins. Inserting
coins DOES NOT COUNT towards the $500 limit. you can take these chips
home with you so you aren't affected by the $500 limit in the future.
Any cashout tickets you have may also be taken home and reinserted later
without affecting the $500 limit.

Once you have the chips or cashout tickets, technically you're not
supposed to give any to your wife, but the casinos don't enforce this
unless you're incredibly obvious about it.

One problem, though. If you earn a W2G-qualifying jackpot using someone
else's card, by law the casino doesn't have to pay you. I've had several
emails to this effect --- but I have no knowledge about Harrah's
specifically. So quarter-and-lower players have less to be concerned
with with playing on another card than higher-stakes players.

These are obvious tricks that I've picked up in a few visits to
Missouri. Regulars there have many more. Anyone who can't find a way
around the Missouri $500 law, is likely someone who will have a tough
time figuring out advantage video poker.

Bob Dancer

For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

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What a bunch of government crap. I see the government is going out of
their way to limit losses to $500?? I wonder if the government has
gone out of their way to insure casino pays back a fair amount. In
fact, if government mandated say a 95% or better payback that might
go a lot furthur to protect customer. I don't know casino win numbers
for that area; maybe competition has driven payback up to a decent
amount? Of course there is taxes too. Gambling, booze and ciggs taxed
to death.

I drift into Wheeling W.Va to bet the dogs, enjoy a dinner and play
keno for a couple hours. I know, I know, paytable is at Vegas level
for video keno and it's still at about 90%. I'll blame it on my wife.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!! Anyway, W.Va. law must
limit bill amounts to play video games. You can't put a $100 bill in
machines. I wouldn't be surprised if someone believed if customer
played with $20s they would gamble responsibly. However, players sit
with fists full of $20 putting 5 or 10 in at a time. Then they sit
and play.

Just a few dumb thoughts from Jeep....Cheers
.

True, if you haven't planned ahead. If you plan your trips to arrive
immediately prior to the 2-hour window (which is always on the even
hours or odd hours, depending on the casino), you can buy $500 with
cash. In a few minutes, you can buy another $500.

You don't have to insert the money into the machine. You may buy
table-game chips (black ones are $100 each, for example). And .

Once you

have these, they are exchangeable for coin at any rate. And while

the

machines are ticket in ticket out, you may still insert coins.

Inserting

coins DOES NOT COUNT towards the $500 limit. you can take these

chips

home with you so you aren't affected by the $500 limit in the

future.

Any cashout tickets you have may also be taken home and reinserted

later

without affecting the $500 limit.

Once you have the chips or cashout tickets, technically you're not
supposed to give any to your wife, but the casinos don't enforce

this

unless you're incredibly obvious about it.

One problem, though. If you earn a W2G-qualifying jackpot using

someone

else's card, by law the casino doesn't have to pay you. I've had

several

emails to this effect --- but I have no knowledge about Harrah's
specifically. So quarter-and-lower players have less to be concerned
with with playing on another card than higher-stakes players.

These are obvious tricks that I've picked up in a few visits to
Missouri. Regulars there have many more. Anyone who can't find a way
around the Missouri $500 law, is likely someone who will have a

tough

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.-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@c...> wrote:

time figuring out advantage video poker.

Bob Dancer

Let's differentiate "government." This is your friendly neighborhood
Bible Belt mentality in action.

That's why we can only have Texas hold 'em for "charity" in Cleveland.

Tom
Nothing to sell

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "whitejeeps" <whitejeeps@y...> wrote:

What a bunch of government crap. I see the government is going out of