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Hands per hour

#1

I used to play quite fast but I have never calculated my HPH. Sometimes people would come up behind me to watch which was very unnerving to me and I would just stop playing until they went away. A few years ago I was playing a $5 BP Spinpoker, I think 5 lines, and got dealt 3 A's. I proceeded to quickly hold the 3 and press draw. I watched in horror as one of the Aces "disappeared" and the 4th came up. I called an attendant and they went in and checked the hand. It clearly showed I did not hold the Ace. I tried to explain that certainly I would have held 3 Aces but they would not budge. Since that very expensive lesson I play much slower now, especially when I am dealt a good hand.

Sylvia

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#2

That right there is just bad publicity...
I've done a couple screw ups like that, and everytime they always make it right...of course, I wasn't playing BIIIG money (just quarters) so YMMV.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sylvia" <sgosline@...> wrote:

I used to play quite fast but I have never calculated my HPH. Sometimes people would come up behind me to watch which was very unnerving to me and I would just stop playing until they went away. A few years ago I was playing a $5 BP Spinpoker, I think 5 lines, and got dealt 3 A's. I proceeded to quickly hold the 3 and press draw. I watched in horror as one of the Aces "disappeared" and the 4th came up. I called an attendant and they went in and checked the hand. It clearly showed I did not hold the Ace. I tried to explain that certainly I would have held 3 Aces but they would not budge. Since that very expensive lesson I play much slower now, especially when I am dealt a good hand.

Sylvia

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#3

I've had this happen to me from time to time as well. The pattern seems to be that if you hit, say, 3 buttons really quickly in a row, once in a blue moon hitting the 3rd one causes one of the first 2 to un-hold. My theory is that if the timing is exactly wrong, it gets confused about which button generated a button-down or button-up event and applies it to the wrong button in addition to the correct one, or something like that (but this is pure speculation, I have no knowledge of the software or hardware internals, and since it happens rarely, it's hard to test the theory...)

While technically this could be considered a malfunction or design defect, practically speaking whether you can convince them to roll it back will probably depend on which attendant/supervisor you get and how much they like you and whether you're perceived as someone who shoots angles a lot.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter if it's the machine's fault or yours, whether you recognized the correct hold or even pressed the correct buttons. You don't get credit for any of that. The ONLY thing that counts are which cards have the 'hold' label when you press the Draw button.

Sadly, even knowing this, I still make speed-induced errors :frowning:

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Sylvia wrote:

A few years ago I was playing a $5 BP Spinpoker, I think 5 lines, and got dealt 3 A's. I proceeded to quickly hold the 3 and press draw. I watched in horror as one of the Aces "disappeared" and the 4th came up.

#4

Lone Locust of the Apocalypse wrote:

> A few years ago I was playing a $5 BP Spinpoker, I think 5 lines,
> and got dealt 3 A's. I proceeded to quickly hold the 3 and press
> draw. I watched in horror as one of the Aces "disappeared" and the > > 4th came up.

I've had this happen to me from time to time as well. The pattern
seems to be that if you hit, say, 3 buttons really quickly in a
row, once in a blue moon hitting the 3rd one causes one of the
first 2 to un-hold. My theory is that if the timing is exactly
wrong, it gets confused about which button generated a button-down
or button-up event and applies it to the wrong button in
addition to the correct one, or something like that (but this
is pure speculation, I have no knowledge of the software or
hardware internals, and since it happens rarely, it's hard to
test the theory...)

I posted a description of this same problem on vpFREE several
years ago. I searched but cannot find it now... it was posted
under a different Yahoo ID.

You can reproduce this problem with ease on old IGT machines.
Simply press and hold one of the "hold" buttons then press
and release an adjacent "hold" button. You'll see the "hold"
indicator toggle off/on on the first card held as you
repeatedly press/release the second "hold" button.

On those older IGT machines you could not safely have more
than one "hold" button pressed otherwise the results were
unpredictable or at least unexpected. The newer machines
operate correctly with multiple buttons pressed simultaneously.
The modern IGT's are great for playing two machines at once!

G'luck all,
Gamb00ler

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Sylvia wrote: