Hello all!
In the last couple of months we have heard where an I-phone application for counting Blackjack at the tables has been banned.
My question is, does the same go for Video Poker? There are times when I come across a hand playing VP that I would just love to throw into my cell phone and really see what I am dealing with.
Do casinos allow this on VP machines?
i use my t-mobile sidekick all the time at the machines to look at the wizard of odds. never had a problem.
in fact, i helped develop that product and took early protoypes with me (this was well before most people were even TXTing with cell phones) and people just found it very curious.
braindamaged_25 wrote:
Hello all!
In the last couple of months we have heard where an I-phone application for counting Blackjack at the tables has been banned.
My question is, does the same go for Video Poker? There are times when I come across a hand playing VP that I would just love to throw into my cell phone and really see what I am dealing with.
Do casinos allow this on VP machines?
<My question is, does the same go for Video Poker? There are times when I come
<across a hand playing VP that I would just love to throw into my cell phone and
<really see what I am dealing with.
<Do casinos allow this on VP machines? This seems to apply, but the key word may be calculating. Nevada Gaming Regulations: NRS 465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities. It is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, any device to assist: 1. In projecting the outcome of the game; 2. In keeping track of the cards played; 3. In analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or 4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,Êexcept as permitted by the Commission. (Added to NRS by 1985, 970)
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--- On Tue, 4/7/09, braindamaged_25 <swarnock@yahoo.com> wrote:
A huge grey area here, above and beyond the word "calculating"...
In my opinion, the word "device" might also be critical, as used in the phrase above, "to use, any device". One might ask if a printed strategy sheet can be considered to be a "device".
..... bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Chuck & Kathy <kc42223@...> wrote:
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, braindamaged_25 <swarnock@...> wrote:
<My question is, does the same go for Video Poker? There are times when I come
<across a hand playing VP that I would just love to throw into my cell phone and
<really see what I am dealing with.<Do casinos allow this on VP machines? This seems to apply, but the key word may be calculating. Nevada Gaming Regulations: NRS 465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities. It is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, any device to assist: 1. In projecting the outcome of the game; 2. In keeping track of the cards played; 3. In analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or 4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,Êexcept as permitted by the Commission. (Added to NRS by 1985, 970)
You are so right...thanks for the input. A very interesting read on the link below.
Does anyone know if "device" has been clearly defined by Nevada Law? If not, then a "device" appears to be left to the Casino's descretion. Since they sell BJ Strategy cards in most gift shps in the casino, then VP Strategy cards should be ok. I would opine though that a electronic device such as a I-phone loaded with a VP calculator would not be viewed favorably by the casino.
http://www.blackjackencyclopedia.com/library/the-anti-device-law-is-tried-and-found-vague.html
<My question is, does the same go for Video Poker? There are times
when I come
<across a hand playing VP that I would just love to throw into my cell
phone and
<really see what I am dealing with.
<Do casinos allow this on VP machines? This seems to apply, but the
key word may be calculating. Nevada Gaming Regulations: NRS
465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities. It is unlawful for any
person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to
use, any device to assist: 1. In projecting the outcome of the
game; 2. In keeping track of the cards played; 3. In
analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game;
or 4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in
the game,Êexcept as permitted by the Commission. (Added to NRS by
1985, 970)
A huge grey area here, above and beyond the word "calculating"...
In my opinion, the word "device" might also be critical, as used in
the phrase above, "to use, any device". One might ask if a printed
strategy sheet can be considered to be a "device".
..... bl
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--- On Wed, 4/8/09, bornloser1537 <bornloser1537@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, braindamaged_25 <swarnock@...> wrote:
Thanks all for the responses. It's kinda what I figured..
one of those infamous gray areas. As for the BJ strategy cards,
I have seen some casinos NOT allow the player to use them so maybe
it's up to each casino to interpret the word "device".
I am encourage that someone has done it and seemed to get no grief
over it. I am going in April maybe I will ask a floor person or better yet take a informal poll of the casinos I end up playing at!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Chuck & Kathy <kc42223@...> wrote:
A huge grey area here, above and beyond the word "calculating"...
In my opinion, the word "device" might also be critical, as used in
the phrase above, "to use, any device". One might ask if a printed
strategy sheet can be considered to be a "device"...... bl
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I always figured it was mechanical(clickers for counting) or electronic devices that were prohibited.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "braindamaged_25" <swarnock@...> wrote:
Thanks all for the responses. It's kinda what I figured..
one of those infamous gray areas. As for the BJ strategy cards,
I have seen some casinos NOT allow the player to use them so maybe
it's up to each casino to interpret the word "device".I am encourage that someone has done it and seemed to get no grief
over it. I am going in April maybe I will ask a floor person or better yet take a informal poll of the casinos I end up playing at!--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Chuck & Kathy <kc42223@> wrote:
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> A huge grey area here, above and beyond the word "calculating"...
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> In my opinion, the word "device" might also be critical, as used in
> the phrase above, "to use, any device". One might ask if a printed
> strategy sheet can be considered to be a "device".
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> ..... bl
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