I listened to the whole show, I still don't know what they're talking about. What the heck is a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" or whatever it was they were talking about? I seldom play slots, but I walk around and I'm pretty familiar with most of the slots, or what they look like. So what were they talking about? Can someone describe one or two of them for a poor dummy like me? What do they look like? What's the mystery?
GWAE: What is a "Mystery Slot"?
the reels, or a particular hand in poker for example. A mystery progressive
requires no such winning combination. A random winning threshold is chosen
by the progressive controller that is within the parameters chosen by the
casino. When that threshold is crossed, the player whose coin-in caused the
crossing wins the progressive amount.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Bob Bartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I listened to the whole show, I still don't know what they're talking
about. What the heck is a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" or
whatever it was they were talking about? I seldom play slots, but I walk
around and I'm pretty familiar with most of the slots, or what they look
like. So what were they talking about? Can someone describe one or two of
them for a poor dummy like me? What do they look like? What's the mystery?A traditional progressive is won by hitting a particular combination on
Thanks, but I still can't picture one in my mind. I didn't know they had machines like that. I'll pay attention next time I go to a casino.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Darrell G <darrellg@...> wrote:
> A traditional progressive is won by hitting a particular combination on
the reels, or a particular hand in poker for example. A mystery progressive
requires no such winning combination. A random winning threshold is chosen
by the progressive controller that is within the parameters chosen by the
casino. When that threshold is crossed, the player whose coin-in caused the
crossing wins the progressive amount.
You don't want no part of mystery slots Bob Bartop, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJQ35sJzRkE
regular progressives hit when you hit a particular hand, like a royal or 777 or whatever
must hit progressives must hit before or at some cap, for many the bottom cap is $50
mystery progressives are randomly awarded at any time, you are eligible by playing a hand or by playing a hand within a certain time frame on linked machines, mystery progressives can also be "casino wide", they are less mysterious if you happen to know the average hit frequency and average cost to hit, just like poker, and you find these things out either by playing or watching others play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq6byhhOC-Q
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
I listened to the whole show, I still don't know what they're talking about. What the heck is a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" or whatever it was they were talking about? I seldom play slots, but I walk around and I'm pretty familiar with most of the slots, or what they look like. So what were they talking about? Can someone describe one or two of them for a poor dummy like me? What do they look like? What's the mystery?
Bob, I think you are familiar with Quick Strike. That's a form of a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" that Listen is referring to. He's actually using a generic term to describe all of the various forms these slots come in.
I always called it Lucky Coin Bonus System because that's what the name was on the first of these machines I encountered, which was at the Mandalay Bay opening in 1998. The program was introduced by Acres Gaming. Back then the games were 2 coin quarters, 2 coin dollars, 2 coin $5, with meters that ran from 2% to 5%. There were about a half dozen linked banks of machines. Mandalay Bay removed the system after about two months and that's the last time I ever encountered a mystery slot with a 5% meter.
To find these machines you have to walk through the casino looking for all slot progressives. Then you have to take another look to see if there is a cap on the progressive. For Quick Strike the machine will show something like: Range $25 - $50. These so called mystery slots come in various forms. The Jumbo Jackpot at the Stations Casinos was one form.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
I listened to the whole show, I still don't know what they're talking about. What the heck is a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" or whatever it was they were talking about? I seldom play slots, but I walk around and I'm pretty familiar with most of the slots, or what they look like. So what were they talking about? Can someone describe one or two of them for a poor dummy like me? What do they look like? What's the mystery?
I think I get it now. Thanks, Iguana, I knew I could count on you.
-BB
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
You don't want no part of mystery slots Bob Bartop, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJQ35sJzRkE
regular progressives hit when you hit a particular hand, like a royal or 777 or whatever
must hit progressives must hit before or at some cap, for many the bottom cap is $50
mystery progressives are randomly awarded at any time, you are eligible by playing a hand or by playing a hand within a certain time frame on linked machines, mystery progressives can also be "casino wide", they are less mysterious if you happen to know the average hit frequency and average cost to hit, just like poker, and you find these things out either by playing or watching others play:
Sure, Mickey, I know what the Quick Strikes are. And I remember you posting about the play at Mandalay, way back when.
I don't know why I got so confused last night while listening to the show.
Let me ask you about a bank I saw the other night at my local Indian joint. I forget the name, or manufacturer, maybe it's Aristocrat, but it's an Australian theme, and you play pennies, and there's a maxi jackpot and a mini jackpot, and five reels with all kinds of confusing shit on it. Anyway, I guess the maxi and mini are what you guys are referring to as mystery progressives. Because I looked at the rules and it was a mystery to me what would trigger them. They are NOT a "must-hit-by" thing.
But anyway, for instance, say there was 8 machines in this bank. And the mini jackpots on 7 of them were like $40 to $50. But on ONE machine, it was up to like $160 bucks. Do you think that one with the $160 mini was positive EV? If so, what does a fella do? Just sit down and play all lines at minimum, which would be 30-cents a pop, and then hope the machine DECIDES to award one of those jackpots?
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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Bob, I think you are familiar with Quick Strike. That's a form of a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" that Listen is referring to. He's actually using a generic term to describe all of the various forms these slots come in.I always called it Lucky Coin Bonus System because that's what the name was on the first of these machines I encountered, which was at the Mandalay Bay opening in 1998. The program was introduced by Acres Gaming. Back then the games were 2 coin quarters, 2 coin dollars, 2 coin $5, with meters that ran from 2% to 5%. There were about a half dozen linked banks of machines. Mandalay Bay removed the system after about two months and that's the last time I ever encountered a mystery slot with a 5% meter.
To find these machines you have to walk through the casino looking for all slot progressives. Then you have to take another look to see if there is a cap on the progressive. For Quick Strike the machine will show something like: Range $25 - $50. These so called mystery slots come in various forms. The Jumbo Jackpot at the Stations Casinos was one form.
Video of Konami Beat the Field mystery progressive slot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0boATmhnr5Q
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
> >
> Bob, I think you are familiar with Quick Strike. That's a form of a "mystery slot" or "mystery progressive" that Listen is referring to. He's actually using a generic term to describe all of the various forms these slots come in.
>
> I always called it Lucky Coin Bonus System because that's what the name was on the first of these machines I encountered, which was at the Mandalay Bay opening in 1998. The program was introduced by Acres Gaming. Back then the games were 2 coin quarters, 2 coin dollars, 2 coin $5, with meters that ran from 2% to 5%. There were about a half dozen linked banks of machines. Mandalay Bay removed the system after about two months and that's the last time I ever encountered a mystery slot with a 5% meter.
>
> To find these machines you have to walk through the casino looking for all slot progressives. Then you have to take another look to see if there is a cap on the progressive. For Quick Strike the machine will show something like: Range $25 - $50. These so called mystery slots come in various forms. The Jumbo Jackpot at the Stations Casinos was one form.
>Sure, Mickey, I know what the Quick Strikes are. And I remember you posting about the play at Mandalay, way back when.
I don't know why I got so confused last night while listening to the show.
Let me ask you about a bank I saw the other night at my local Indian joint. I forget the name, or manufacturer, maybe it's Aristocrat, but it's an Australian theme, and you play pennies, and there's a maxi jackpot and a mini jackpot, and five reels with all kinds of confusing shit on it. Anyway, I guess the maxi and mini are what you guys are referring to as mystery progressives. Because I looked at the rules and it was a mystery to me what would trigger them. They are NOT a "must-hit-by" thing.
But anyway, for instance, say there was 8 machines in this bank. And the mini jackpots on 7 of them were like $40 to $50. But on ONE machine, it was up to like $160 bucks. Do you think that one with the $160 mini was positive EV? If so, what does a fella do? Just sit down and play all lines at minimum, which would be 30-cents a pop, and then hope the machine DECIDES to award one of those jackpots?