When do you go or not go for the Straight Flush in Deuces Wild game?
For example: (What's the Correct Hold for SF paying only 50 coins?)
22J7x (x not suited)
2287x (x not suited)
Does the same Hold applies if SF pays 60 or 65?
Thanks.
Gilbert
Guideline to going for Straight Flush in Deuces Wild game.
sorry, I meant 22J7 and 2287 are suited cards and a 3 or K not suited.
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When do you go or not go for the Straight Flush in Deuces Wild game?
For example: (What's the Correct Hold for SF paying only 50 coins?)
22J73 (3 not suited)
22873 (3 not suited)Does the same Hold applies if SF pays 60 or 65?
Thanks.
Gilbert
Gilbert asked about 4-card straight flushes in DW: The value of the
straight flush is important, but so is the value of the regular flush.
It varies between 10 and 15 and strongly affects the holds in question.
If you're playing any version of Deuces Bonus, where straights pay 5
instead of 10, that affects things as well.
It is not hard for you to work these things out as there are only four
strengths of 4-card straight flushes with 2 deuces.
The strongest (zero insides) is WW'67'-WW'9T'
The next strongest (one inside) is WW'45'-WW'56', WW'57'-WW'9J'
The next strongest (two insides) is WW'34', WW'35',
WW'36'-WW'9Q'
The least strongest (ace-low) is WW'A3', WW'A4', WW'A5'
You can put any of these combinations on whichever trainer you
have and see how to play them. It's not difficult. You can also use one
of the programs that calculate strategies for you. That's also not very
hard.
In most DW games, it doesn't matter what the fifth card is ---
so long as it doesn't make a 4-of-a-kind or 4-card royal. If you keep
changing values of straight flushes, eventually you'll find cases where
the fifth card DOES matter. If it is suited with the 4-card straight
flush, possibly, it can make the play two deuces but if it is not suited
with the straight flush, you hold the straight flush.
Bob Dancer
For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video poker
computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com
Gilbert asked about 4-card straight flushes in DW: The value of the
straight flush is important, but so is the value of the regular
flush.
It varies between 10 and 15 and strongly affects the holds in
question.
If you're playing any version of Deuces Bonus, where straights pay 5
instead of 10, that affects things as well.It is not hard for you to work these things out as there are only
four
strengths of 4-card straight flushes with 2 deuces.
The strongest (zero insides) is WW'67'-WW'9T'
The next strongest (one inside) is WW'45'-WW'56', WW'57'-
WW'9J'
The next strongest (two insides) is WW'34', WW'35',
WW'36'-WW'9Q'
The least strongest (ace-low) is WW'A3', WW'A4', WW'A5'You can put any of these combinations on whichever trainer you
have and see how to play them. It's not difficult. You can also use
one
of the programs that calculate strategies for you. That's also not
very
hard.
In most DW games, it doesn't matter what the fifth card is ---
so long as it doesn't make a 4-of-a-kind or 4-card royal. If you
keep
changing values of straight flushes, eventually you'll find cases
where
the fifth card DOES matter. If it is suited with the 4-card straight
flush, possibly, it can make the play two deuces but if it is not
suited
with the straight flush, you hold the straight flush.
Bob Dancer
For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video
poker
computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com
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Thanks for your feedback Bob!
Sorry, I am just a bit lazy to check these out in WinPoker and of
course mainly looking for the shortcuts to learning deuces wild.
From what you said: "The value of the straight flush is important,
but so is the value of the regular flush. It is not hard for you to
work these things out as there are only four strengths of 4-card
straight flushes with 2 deuces."
1. The strongest (zero insides) is WW'67'-WW'9T'
2. The next strongest (one inside) is WW'45'-WW'56', WW'57'-WW'9J'
3. The next strongest (two insides) is WW'34', WW'35', > WW'36'-WW'9Q'
4. The least strongest (ace-low) is WW'A3', WW'A4', WW'A5'
If SF pays 50, 60, 65... (assuming no Straight or Flush penalty)
The answer I'm looking for is something like:
For SF 50, 60, 65 -- go for SF always with items 1 and 2. Only go
with item 3 if ..... and go with item 4 if SF pays 65 or higher.
I own a copy of your Deuces Wild strategy card, but of course, it's
done for Full Pay Deuces Wild so some people ask me this same
question, I don't have a quick answer. The guideline I was hoping to
see is for those short pay Deuces Wild at Harrahs which is at:
12 (5 of a kind)
10 (SF)
4
4
3
2
1
Thanks again.
Gilbert
PS.
Any upgrade to Video Poker for Winners in the near future?
I'd like to see some improvements on the Bankroll calculation feature
for ease of use -- then I'll definitely place an order for it.
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game.
(snip)
Thanks for your feedback Bob!
Sorry, I am just a bit lazy to check these out in WinPoker and of
course mainly looking for the shortcuts to learning deuces wild.
I own a copy of your Deuces Wild strategy card, but of course, it's
done for Full Pay Deuces Wild so some people ask me this same
question, I don't have a quick answer.
Don't have the magic quick answer either, but I have a quick question. The
spoon that you are looking for, does it have to be in sterling silver or
will one that is just generic flatware do?
Nudge
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From: "gilbert_616"
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Guideline to going for Straight Flush in Deuces Wild
From: "gilbert_616"
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Guideline to going for Straight Flush in
Deuces Wild
game.
(snip)
> Thanks for your feedback Bob!
> Sorry, I am just a bit lazy to check these out in WinPoker and of
> course mainly looking for the shortcuts to learning deuces wild.
> I own a copy of your Deuces Wild strategy card, but of course,
it's
> done for Full Pay Deuces Wild so some people ask me this same
> question, I don't have a quick answer.Don't have the magic quick answer either, but I have a quick
question. The
spoon that you are looking for, does it have to be in sterling
silver or
will one that is just generic flatware do?
Nudge
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gilbert wrote:
Sorry, can't help you there Nudge. Most Chinese prefer chopsticks so
they are either wood or plastic. Normally, I look for a spoon in a
Japanese restaurant when they give you that miso soup and they expect
you to drink it from the bowl. But, I'm not Chinese so while you're
playing vp and someone playing Deuces Wild next to you is dealt 22J73
or WWJ73 (where 3 is not suited with the J7) and ask you "Do I go for
the Straight Flush or just hold the Deuces?", it will be nice to have
that quick of an answer just by looking at, for example, the payout
for the Straight Flush so that life goes on and s/he continues
her/his play and you continue your play.
Too bad it's not like the guideline or rule-of-thumb (from what I
heard or learned so far) as in 4 Aces where when dealt a card such as
AA77K in DB or DDB, you only hold the pair of Aces when 4 Aces pays
800 coins or greater.
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