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Great Site

What a great group for information about VP. I am grateful that "The
Frugal gambler" directed me to this site. The book was so informative
that I could not put it down. I hope the "Frugal Video Poker" Book
comes out early. Its interesting how a book can put some reality into
what happens in Vegas. Someone is always ready to put their spin on
what happens in the city and what you should be doing.

Mike wrote:

What a great group for information about VP. I am grateful that "The
Frugal gambler" directed me to this site. The book was so informative
that I could not put it down. I hope the "Frugal Video Poker" Book
comes out early.

I'll suggest that, if it was the original "Frugal" book that you laid
your hands on, you might pick up a copy of the follow up "More Frugal
Gambling" while waiting for FVP (the book).

I found "FG2" to be much meatier, with a stronger video poker focus,
and a very satisfying read.

- Harry

I thought about buying it. Its nice to be able to pick it up at a
discount from LV Advisor.
Are there certain casinos that hand out comps easier that others? It
ocurred to me that if your machines are tighter that you would be more
willing to comp to garner business.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@...> wrote:

Mike wrote:
> What a great group for information about VP. I am grateful that "The
> Frugal gambler" directed me to this site. The book was so informative
> that I could not put it down. I hope the "Frugal Video Poker" Book
> comes out early.

I'll suggest that, if it was the original "Frugal" book that you laid
your hands on, you might pick up a copy of the follow up "More Frugal
Gambling" while waiting for FVP (the book).

I found "FG2" to be much meatier, with a stronger video poker focus,
and a very satisfying read.

- Harry

There may be a slight alignment with easy comps and tight machines, but it is minor at best.
Usually the best comps for your dollar come from the smaller and older establishments.
i.e. El Cortez is quite free with room comps and has some excellent video poker. Places like the Bellagio have poor video poker yet are tight on comps.
I am talking about quarter players of course. If you are putting through major money, then all of the casinos will want your business.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <M.Mooman@gmail.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:47 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Great Site

Are there certain casinos that hand out comps easier that others? It
ocurred to me that if your machines are tighter that you would be more
willing to comp to garner business.

Harry wrote: <<I'll suggest that, if it was the original "Frugal" book that you laid your hands on, you might pick up a copy of the follow up "More FrugalGambling" while waiting for FVP (the book). I found "FG2" to be much meatier, with a stronger video poker focus, and a very satisfying read.>>

Harry brings out a very good point on which I would like to expand since I don't want anyone to buy one of my books and then feel like it was a waste of money. Each of my books has a particular focus and a particular audience in mind.

1. The first one, "The Frugal Gambler," is an introduction to smarter gambling. It has information on all casino games, with a chart that shows the varying returns of each and also the "per hour" win/loss for each. Then I have a chapter on VP, introducing the concept that this can be the way to lose less/win more in a casino. I also have chapters introducing the basic concepts of profiting from slot club benefits, promotions, coupons, and comps.

A well-known VP pro called this book "shallow," missing entirely the concept that you have to learn to walk before you can run. It has sold well over 100,000 - probably 150,000 by now, I don't keep track - and has started thousands of people on the path of smarter gambling, many of them going on to become VP experts. It was written in very simple language and with only simple math concepts. You don't want to turn people off with too much complex information all at once. It is a perfect book to give your friends and relatives who don't understand your love of casinos!

2. Next I wrote "More Frugal Gambling," to delve more deeply into the area of smart gambling, focusing specifically on VP and giving the basic building blocks to start on the path leading to "VP advantage play." I give more advanced techniques for using the slot club system, promotions, and comps, with much detail on the latter that you will not find anywhere else, not even in my new book. This book gives most VP players much new material to "chew on," the "meat" Harry refers to.

3. I decided to write "Frugal Video Poker" when I realized there was a need for an organized, one-step-at-a-time VP "guidebook" for someone who wanted to learn how to play VP and then advance up the path toward "advantage play." I realized that there were many VP players who had made a piece-meal study of the subject but who had either missed some of the basics or missed some of the important concepts you need to study along the way so you can become more successful VP players. This step-by-step approach allows you to review stuff you know and then progress to the stuff you need to learn. You can scan some chapters and study in detail others. You can take the chapters in order or skip around.

This new book is not the "end-all" study manual for successful VP play. Viktor and I finish the book with an open-ended Epilogue that encourages further study and we provide a very extensive resource list for advanced VP students.

You can go to my Web site below and find lists of the chapters in all the books that will help you decide which books might be helpful for you.

And thanks to all of you who have said nice things about my books - although sometimes I wish people would stop saying that my writings have been helpful to them - and then I would have an excuse to retire!!!! :slight_smile:

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________________________________________
Jean $�ott
"FRUGAL VIDEO POKER" - Pre-pub
orders for this new book now taken at
http://www.FrugalGambler.biz

Just wanted to thank you for making some sense out of Vegas in your
book,"The Frugal Gambler". There was always the discussions about
"Comps"....I always thought that I did not spend enough to get them..
You hear so much about the right thing to do in Vegas. It never
worked for me in the past. Nevertheless,since playing VP,we are
enjoying gambling. I was one of the those that thought it was not
macho to play the machines....if I was smart enough,I would be at a
table like a "Real Man".
I like the fact that I can buzz through your book without having to
read some pages several times in order to understand it.
You can tell that someone in the teaching profession authored the book.
Don't change your techniques when it comes to instructing individuals
about VP-it appears to be working.

Harry wrote: <<I'll suggest that, if it was the original "Frugal"

book that

you laid your hands on, you might pick up a copy of the follow up "More
FrugalGambling" while waiting for FVP (the book). I found "FG2" to

be much

meatier, with a stronger video poker focus, and a very satisfying

read.>>

Harry brings out a very good point on which I would like to expand

since I

don't want anyone to buy one of my books and then feel like it was a

waste

of money. Each of my books has a particular focus and a particular

audience

in mind.

1. The first one, "The Frugal Gambler," is an introduction to smarter
gambling. It has information on all casino games, with a chart that

shows

the varying returns of each and also the "per hour" win/loss for

each. Then

I have a chapter on VP, introducing the concept that this can be the

way to

lose less/win more in a casino. I also have chapters introducing

the basic

concepts of profiting from slot club benefits, promotions, coupons, and
comps.

A well-known VP pro called this book "shallow," missing entirely the

concept

that you have to learn to walk before you can run. It has sold well

over

100,000 - probably 150,000 by now, I don't keep track - and has started
thousands of people on the path of smarter gambling, many of them

going on

to become VP experts. It was written in very simple language and

with only

simple math concepts. You don't want to turn people off with too much
complex information all at once. It is a perfect book to give your

friends

and relatives who don't understand your love of casinos!

2. Next I wrote "More Frugal Gambling," to delve more deeply into

the area

of smart gambling, focusing specifically on VP and giving the basic

building

blocks to start on the path leading to "VP advantage play." I give

more

advanced techniques for using the slot club system, promotions, and

comps,

with much detail on the latter that you will not find anywhere else,

not

even in my new book. This book gives most VP players much new

material to

"chew on," the "meat" Harry refers to.

3. I decided to write "Frugal Video Poker" when I realized there

was a need

for an organized, one-step-at-a-time VP "guidebook" for someone who

wanted

to learn how to play VP and then advance up the path toward "advantage
play." I realized that there were many VP players who had made a
piece-meal study of the subject but who had either missed some of

the basics

or missed some of the important concepts you need to study along the

way so

you can become more successful VP players. This step-by-step approach
allows you to review stuff you know and then progress to the stuff

you need

to learn. You can scan some chapters and study in detail others.

You can

take the chapters in order or skip around.

This new book is not the "end-all" study manual for successful VP play.
Viktor and I finish the book with an open-ended Epilogue that

encourages

further study and we provide a very extensive resource list for

advanced VP

students.

You can go to my Web site below and find lists of the chapters in

all the

books that will help you decide which books might be helpful for you.

And thanks to all of you who have said nice things about my books -

although

sometimes I wish people would stop saying that my writings have been

helpful

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@...> wrote:

to them - and then I would have an excuse to retire!!!! :slight_smile:

________________________________________
Jean $�ott
"FRUGAL VIDEO POKER" - Pre-pub
orders for this new book now taken at
http://www.FrugalGambler.biz

I am glad you answered the question about comps but from the poster
I assumed he was playing slots since VP machines are not "tighter"
at some places than others. They may have different pay schedules
but the same if the machine has the same pay schedule than it cannot
be tighter than the one right next to it.

There may be a slight alignment with easy comps and tight

machines, but it

is minor at best.
Usually the best comps for your dollar come from the smaller and

older

establishments.
i.e. El Cortez is quite free with room comps and has some

excellent video

poker. Places like the Bellagio have poor video poker yet are

tight on

comps.
I am talking about quarter players of course. If you are putting

through

major money, then all of the casinos will want your business.

Regards
A.P.
From: "Mike" <M.Mooman@...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:47 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Great Site

> Are there certain casinos that hand out comps easier that

others? It

> ocurred to me that if your machines are tighter that you would

be more

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@...> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
> willing to comp to garner business.

Well not to beat semantics to a pulp, BUT. I call 6/5 jb a tight machine.
If someone came up to me and asked me where the loose video poker machines are I would not have any
problem sending him to where the good paytable machines are.
The fact that one can tell if a video poker machine has a tight or loose play table is what
makes it a good play. I don't recall ever seeing a definition of tight machine inventory that excluded VP.
The other point is why would you make the assumption that the person is playing slots, when he is asking
the question on a video poker forum ?

Please don't take this posting the wrong way, it is not a chastisement, but merely my view on the expression "Tight Machine"

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "missdeuces" <missdeuces@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re:Tight machines with loose comps was - Re: Great Site

I am glad you answered the question about comps but from the poster
I assumed he was playing slots since VP machines are not "tighter"
at some places than others. They may have different pay schedules
but the same if the machine has the same pay schedule than it cannot
be tighter than the one right next to it.

Well not to beat semantics to a pulp, BUT. I call 6/5 jb a tight

machine.

If someone came up to me and asked me where the loose video poker

machines

are I would not have any
problem sending him to where the good paytable machines are.
The fact that one can tell if a video poker machine has a tight or

loose

play table is what
makes it a good play. I don't recall ever seeing a definition of

tight

machine inventory that excluded VP.
The other point is why would you make the assumption that the

person is

playing slots, when he is asking
the question on a video poker forum ?

Please don't take this posting the wrong way, it is not a

chastisement, but

merely my view on the expression "Tight Machine"

Regards
A.P.

That was my interpretation also.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@...> wrote:

Actually,I was thinking about machines in general. one could think I
was talking about slots, but I really was talking about how greedy a
particular casino is....do you get something for your money or not..

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "missdeuces" <missdeuces@...> wrote:

I am glad you answered the question about comps but from the poster
I assumed he was playing slots since VP machines are not "tighter"
at some places than others. They may have different pay schedules
but the same if the machine has the same pay schedule than it cannot
be tighter than the one right next to it.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@> wrote:
>
> There may be a slight alignment with easy comps and tight
machines, but it
> is minor at best.
> Usually the best comps for your dollar come from the smaller and
older
> establishments.
> i.e. El Cortez is quite free with room comps and has some
excellent video
> poker. Places like the Bellagio have poor video poker yet are
tight on
> comps.
> I am talking about quarter players of course. If you are putting
through
> major money, then all of the casinos will want your business.
>
> Regards
> A.P.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <M.Mooman@>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:47 AM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Great Site
>
>
>
> > Are there certain casinos that hand out comps easier that
others? It
> > ocurred to me that if your machines are tighter that you would
be more
> > willing to comp to garner business.
>