Great Harrah's LV Offer - Play in Laughlin to reduce lost EV??

[Mr_Hogua]

Today, I received an offer in the mail from Harrah's LV. This wasn't
a huge surprise as I get at least a few offers from Harrah's every
week.

(I did Diamond in a Day in 2007 -$30K coin in in one day-, and that
was the first play on my Harrah's card in 4 years.)

Since Harrah's downgraded their VP last year (3 weeks after I did
DIAD), I've really had little interest in returning. (I don't fancy
the idea of having to play $5 coins, so I play elsewhere to get
better pay tables at the $1-$2 level).

Today's offer was better than usual. The offer is for 3 nights and a
$1200 Macy's gift card (yes, $1200). That got my attention.

I'm going to take this offer. I just need to find the best way to
take advantage of it without giving up too much on the play I put in
while at Harrahs.

My thought is I should put in $30K coin-in on one of the days I'm
there. That would allow me to get about a third of the way through
earning diamond status for 2008 AND allow me to keep up my daily
average, which should keep the door open for future offers like this
one.

The best play (below $5 coins there ) is the one 50 cent 5 play 8/5
BP. That would mean giving up $240 in EV (plus rewards credits).
That isn't bad, but I hate banking on just one machine. If that one
machine is in use (or is pulled before I get there), I'd have to play
$1 7/5 BP, which will cost $600 in EV.

So I have a question...

Do I have to put the play in at Harrah's LV? What if I drive to
Laughlin and put in $30K on their 9/6 JoB? Would Harrah's LV be
satisfied that I put in play (i.e. earned reward credits) while
staying on their offer even though the play was at another Harrah's
propery?

If so, I can save up to $450 in lost EV AND open the door for offers
from Harrah's Laughlin.

My fear is that I risk alienating Harrah's LV and maybe even not
getting the gift card and/or comped room.

Any insight the can be offered (either in public or private) would be
greatly appreciated.

[tralfamidorgooglycra]

A couple of years ago, at the height of The Borg's assimilation
efforts to destroy good gambling on the Strip, I got an offer from
Paris (which had by then been devoured) to stay three nights and get
a $1000 gift card. They said that I had to put through some nominal
amount of play during my stay--I think it was $400. At the time,
they had $1 9/6 JOB, so I thought, "no problem". To add insult to
injury, I won $400 on that machine by the time I was done, after
about $3000 coin-in. When I picked up my card, I asked if next time
I got similar offers, that I could play at ANY Las Vegas Harrah's
property, as long as it was tracked on my Total Rewards card...and
they emphatically said NO, it HAD to be Paris.

I went back the next month on an identical offer, and this time
talked to a slot host, and he told me (rather candidly, I thought)
that Harrah's wanted to "balance" the visitation among its 1,465 Las
Vegas casino properties (OK, so I'm exaggerating a tad), and that
Paris had sent excellent offers for the period in question because
they had had very low volume of reservations for that time period
(Mar-Apr). So they wanted my butt in PARIS, not Rio or Caesar's.

Based on the above, I would play at the casino that invited you,
even if the VP sucks ("VP sucks" and "Harrah's" being used quite
often in the same sentence these days).

[xqqqq_me]

Before you attempt another Diamond in a Day, you should check with the
   casino rewards club. I've heard that you're only allowed to do DIAD
one time (or at least no back to back DIADs). It would be tragic to
throw all that low EV slot play away and find out later that you don't
qualify for another DIAD.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ckonwin" <ckonwin@...> wrote:

Today, I received an offer in the mail from Harrah's LV. This wasn't
a huge surprise as I get at least a few offers from Harrah's every
week.

(I did Diamond in a Day in 2007 -$30K coin in in one day-, and that
was the first play on my Harrah's card in 4 years.)

Since Harrah's downgraded their VP last year (3 weeks after I did
DIAD), I've really had little interest in returning. (I don't fancy
the idea of having to play $5 coins, so I play elsewhere to get
better pay tables at the $1-$2 level).

Today's offer was better than usual. The offer is for 3 nights and a
$1200 Macy's gift card (yes, $1200). That got my attention.

I'm going to take this offer. I just need to find the best way to
take advantage of it without giving up too much on the play I put in
while at Harrahs.

My thought is I should put in $30K coin-in on one of the days I'm
there. That would allow me to get about a third of the way through
earning diamond status for 2008 AND allow me to keep up my daily
average, which should keep the door open for future offers like this
one.

The best play (below $5 coins there ) is the one 50 cent 5 play 8/5
BP. That would mean giving up $240 in EV (plus rewards credits).
That isn't bad, but I hate banking on just one machine. If that one
machine is in use (or is pulled before I get there), I'd have to play
$1 7/5 BP, which will cost $600 in EV.

So I have a question...

Do I have to put the play in at Harrah's LV? What if I drive to
Laughlin and put in $30K on their 9/6 JoB? Would Harrah's LV be
satisfied that I put in play (i.e. earned reward credits) while
staying on their offer even though the play was at another Harrah's
propery?

If so, I can save up to $450 in lost EV AND open the door for offers
from Harrah's Laughlin.

My fear is that I risk alienating Harrah's LV and maybe even not
getting the gift card and/or comped room.

Any insight the can be offered (either in public or private) would be
greatly appreciated.

[One_Card]

Play in laughlin ands get offers from LV ???

My wife is 7-star and I am diamond. We have played at Laughlin for years using the Allegiant charters from the midwest.
We have never played at Harrahs property in Las Vegas. In all the years we have received room offers only from the LV properties.

We also play at Reno/Tahoe, New Orleans and Tunica.Looks like you have tp play in LV to get any offers other than rooms.

Today, I received an offer in the mail from Harrah's LV. This wasn't a huge surprise as I get at least a few offers from Harrah's every week.(I did Diamond in a Day in 2007 -$30K coin in in one day-, and that was the first play on my Harrah's card in 4 years.)Since Harrah's downgraded their VP last year (3 weeks after I did DIAD), I've really had little interest in returning. (I don't fancy the idea of having to play $5 coins, so I play elsewhere to get better pay tables at the $1-$2 level).Today's offer was better than usual. The offer is for 3 nights and a $1200 Macy's gift card (yes, $1200). That got my attention.I'm going to take this offer. I just need to find the best way to take advantage of it without giving up too much on the play I put in while at Harrahs.My thought is I should put in $30K coin-in on one of the days I'm there. That would allow me to get about a third of the way through earning diamond status for 2008 AND allow me to keep up my daily average, which should keep the door open for future offers like this one. The best play (below $5 coins there ) is the one 50 cent 5 play 8/5 BP. That would mean giving up $240 in EV (plus rewards credits). That isn't bad, but I hate banking on just one machine. If that one machine is in use (or is pulled before I get there), I'd have to play $1 7/5 BP, which will cost $600 in EV.So I have a question...Do I have to put the play in at Harrah's LV? What if I drive to Laughlin and put in $30K on their 9/6 JoB? Would Harrah's LV be satisfied that I put in play (i.e. earned reward credits) while staying on their offer even though the play was at another Harrah's propery?If so, I can save up to $450 in lost EV AND open the door for offers from Harrah's Laughlin.My fear is that I risk alienating Harrah's LV and maybe even not getting the gift card and/or comped room. Any insight the can be offered (either in public or private) would be greatly appreciated.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.comFrom: ckonwin@yahoo.comDate: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:39:50 +0000Subject: [vpFREE] Great Harrah's LV Offer - Play in Laughlin to reduce lost EV??

[jackessiebabe]

I have been given almost identical advice by a good 7* buddy. Play
where you're staying, or don't play at any HET casino on that trip.
Concentrate your play on one or two days, and don't play on the
other days. He went so far as to advise NO PLAY AT ALL (at your host
casino) rather than a small amount each day, in order to protect
your ADT.

My experience was very similar to yours. No Harrahs play for years,
then heavy play one day, while out of town. It's been 11 months
since that day, I haven't back to HET again, and I still receive
good offers from HET marketing a few times a week.

Do let us know how your Paris trip plays out.

~Babe~

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--In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers wrote:

.......I went back the next month on an identical offer, and this
time talked to a slot host, and he told me (rather candidly, I
thought) that Harrah's wanted to "balance" the visitation among its
1,465 Las Vegas casino properties (OK, so I'm exaggerating a tad),
and that Paris had sent excellent offers for the period in question
because they had had very low volume of reservations for that time
period Mar-Apr). So they wanted my butt in PARIS, not Rio or
Caesar's.......