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Getting tripped

In a message dated 7/19/2003 4:36:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

No one is perfect, not even the "best players!" One of the things that make

them "best" is their constant desire to learn more about the comp systems
with
which they must work. This keeps them from falling into many "casino traps"
which might catch the less well-informed. Do you really think that NO ONE
knew
all (or at least most of) the traps Royalcat listed before he wrote his
article? And of course you know that every casino host he deals with
dislikes him for
"milking" the system, right? Not exactly my idea of someone to admire,
knowledgeable or not!
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Just out of curiousity, do you know of anyone during the past five years who

has made use of the comp system more than I have, while remaining in the
good
graces of all (well, one exception, initials RP) my hosts?

Brian, in an earlier post, you said:

"Royalcat's SS article was excellent, both informative and humorous, but the
BEST players didn't learn too much from it, as they already had found most of

these things out for themselves. Maybe the "second-best" players DID learn a
lot from the article. "

Regardless of what you may think of Royalcat, I'm assuming that you'll agree
the info presented was accurate & useful to people, most of whom would fall
into the second-best or lower categories.

In any case, I don't remember many articles on this subject.

And yes, I do have an agenda. I firmly believe that the more people know
about trip-average systems, the more likely it will be that most people will
choose banking systems, everything else being equal.

Regarding your statement about taking full advantage of the comp system while
staying in the good graces of your hosts, that speaks well of your
personality and your consideration of your hosts whom you probably treat as equals
instead of slaves. Kudos to your success. As a local, you're doing what you should
do to turn the comp system in your favor and obtain more than what's stated
in the slot club brochures. Being a local allows you to take full advantage of
the much greater bouncebacks (compared to visitors), attend all the high-value
special invitations, take advantage of events that are undersubscribed, and
many other deals/high EV situations that visitors can't do.

As a visitor, I don't have the time (nor do I want to) work the system to
full advantage. I'd just like to narrow the gap between what locals receive &
what visitors receive. Short of an LV PO box, I don't think visitors will ever
receive what locals get as visitor comp accts are dinged by inflated room
charges which lower other benefits such as bounceback. As competition in CA heats
up, NV casinos will have to re-examine their systems to insure their benefits
"edge" will keep people coming back.

Everything else being equal, I think benefits made available to locals should
also be made available to visitors. The cost/customer is a lot lower for
visitors than for locals due to the much higher breakage rate as visitors can't
cash all the best offers like locals can.

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