After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
Getting Banned from Rampart Casino
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So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
Well, it looks like there will be some changes regarding the Ramparts pretty soon.
http://www.lvrj.com/business/herbst-gaming-will-provide-consulting-to-rampart-casino-121621878.html
But still, your post is a disturbing one. I'd sure like to know more details and hope that other players can shed more light on it.
When did this happen? What do you personally think prompted the action? Had you already been "no-mailed"? Had you suddenly hit some big jackpots that brought their attention? How long have you been a customer there? Etc., etc.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
Did you get all your banked comp? I've been told that the Gaming Commission generally allows 86'd players to get all of their comp, even though the casino tries to confiscate it for their own use. It's generally not a good idea to bank a lot of comp, this just gives the casino another motive to 86 you or change the comp program. Of course if the play was any good, you just get a family member or friend to do it for you or trade it to others for another play.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
They banned me in March (and I only just started playing there about two months before that). I am a high limit player and did have a good winning streak, so I am sure I hurt their bottom line. A week before I was thrown out, I had a conversation with another video poker player at Rampart, who told me her friend was banned.....so I am definitely not the first video poker player Rampart gave the boot to
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
>Well, it looks like there will be some changes regarding the Ramparts pretty soon.
http://www.lvrj.com/business/herbst-gaming-will-provide-consulting-to-rampart-casino-121621878.html
But still, your post is a disturbing one. I'd sure like to know more details and hope that other players can shed more light on it.
When did this happen? What do you personally think prompted the action? Had you already been "no-mailed"? Had you suddenly hit some big jackpots that brought their attention? How long have you been a customer there? Etc., etc.
I always cash out all my points at the end of each gambling day, so that was not a problem. However, I earned thousands of raffle tickets for their weekly cash drawings.... which they did take away from me.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
Did you get all your banked comp? I've been told that the Gaming Commission generally allows 86'd players to get all of their comp, even though the casino tries to confiscate it for their own use. It's generally not a good idea to bank a lot of comp, this just gives the casino another motive to 86 you or change the comp program. Of course if the play was any good, you just get a family member or friend to do it for you or trade it to others for another play.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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> After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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They have every right to kick you out.
It IS a stupid and brutish move though. Since they have nothing but under 100% machines if I was the casino manager I just would have canceled your account and put you on "no comps, no mailers, no rooms, no nothing" status.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
If you're considering legal action, Bob Nersesian is the guy to start with. He has already gotten a North Las Vegas judge to agree that casinos shouldn't trespass law abiding citizens.
http://www.google.com/search?q=bob+nersesian
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/trespass.html
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
I always cash out all my points at the end of each gambling day, so that was not a problem. However, I earned thousands of raffle tickets for their weekly cash drawings.... which they did take away from me.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> Did you get all your banked comp? I've been told that the Gaming Commission generally allows 86'd players to get all of their comp, even though the casino tries to confiscate it for their own use. It's generally not a good idea to bank a lot of comp, this just gives the casino another motive to 86 you or change the comp program. Of course if the play was any good, you just get a family member or friend to do it for you or trade it to others for another play.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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> > After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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thank you, but i am not going to do anything else with rampart,however, i did put bob's number into my cell phone contact list (just in case i run into any future problems)
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
If you're considering legal action, Bob Nersesian is the guy to start with. He has already gotten a North Las Vegas judge to agree that casinos shouldn't trespass law abiding citizens.
http://www.google.com/search?q=bob+nersesian
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/trespass.html--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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> I always cash out all my points at the end of each gambling day, so that was not a problem. However, I earned thousands of raffle tickets for their weekly cash drawings.... which they did take away from me.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> > Did you get all your banked comp? I've been told that the Gaming Commission generally allows 86'd players to get all of their comp, even though the casino tries to confiscate it for their own use. It's generally not a good idea to bank a lot of comp, this just gives the casino another motive to 86 you or change the comp program. Of course if the play was any good, you just get a family member or friend to do it for you or trade it to others for another play.
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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> > > After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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yep, that is what i would do....and that is what the Palms Casino does....which is much better than treating someone like a criminal
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
They have every right to kick you out.
It IS a stupid and brutish move though. Since they have nothing but under 100% machines if I was the casino manager I just would have canceled your account and put you on "no comps, no mailers, no rooms, no nothing" status.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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> After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately. I also was told that if I ever came back that they would have me arrested for trespassing. They did not give me any reason why I was being banned. I then called the Gaming Commission, and they contacted the casino on my behalf. Rampart Casino told the Gaming Commission that they felt I was too good of a player and just did not want me to play there anymore. Unfortunately, according to the Gaming Commission, casinos are allowed to ban anyone, for almost any reason. So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately.So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
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Perhaps the slot director reads VPFree? Posting ten pictures of jackpots totaling more than $213,000 just isn't wise? The suits are lying when they say "congratulations". They're really pissed off that you had the audacity to take their money. They just don't realize that you can lose a shit load of cash just as fast as those dealt jackpots came.
I didn't realize until you posted this that Dan was the one with all those pictures. Yeah, I saw those pictures the other day. But wtf? The casino puts in those high limit games, and then acts like this when someone gets lucky? Benny Binion would laugh at what a bunch of pansies they are.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "staninnv" <arnot@...> wrote:
Perhaps the slot director reads VPFree? Posting ten pictures of jackpots totaling more than $213,000 just isn't wise? The suits are lying when they say "congratulations". They're really pissed off that you had the audacity to take their money. They just don't realize that you can lose a shit load of cash just as fast as those dealt jackpots came.
i was kicked out a couple of months ago...i only posted the pictures a few days ago....also, those pictures are from time span of a year...obviously, in between those jackpots, i had many big losing days....but your point is well taken, so i will delete the pictures
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "staninnv" <arnot@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately.So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.Perhaps the slot director reads VPFree? Posting ten pictures of jackpots totaling more than $213,000 just isn't wise? The suits are lying when they say "congratulations". They're really pissed off that you had the audacity to take their money. They just don't realize that you can lose a shit load of cash just as fast as those dealt jackpots came.
No matter what, if all those jackpots belonged to YOU personally...even over the course of a year...you basically hurt a small casino like that. Of COURSE they're going to throw you out!
I say good for you, cripple the fuckers then leave em high and dry.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
i was kicked out a couple of months ago...i only posted the pictures a few days ago....also, those pictures are from time span of a year...obviously, in between those jackpots, i had many big losing days....but your point is well taken, so i will delete the pictures
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "staninnv" <arnot@> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@> wrote:
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> After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately.So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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> Perhaps the slot director reads VPFree? Posting ten pictures of jackpots totaling more than $213,000 just isn't wise? The suits are lying when they say "congratulations". They're really pissed off that you had the audacity to take their money. They just don't realize that you can lose a shit load of cash just as fast as those dealt jackpots came.
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damn I didn't get a chance to show them to my husband. Those pictures were the stuff video poker dreams are made of!!
do you have some special Jedi mind control trick to make the machines deal you so many great jackpots? ;o)
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dan" <trumpbc@...> wrote:
i was kicked out a couple of months ago...i only posted the pictures a few days ago....also, those pictures are from time span of a year...obviously, in between those jackpots, i had many big losing days....but your point is well taken, so i will delete the pictures
there's no reason for a casino with no over-100% games to ever resort
to security guards and threats of arrest for trespass when dealing
with a skilled player. just send out a suit and tell them they're no
longer eligible for points or promotions or anything else. if they
want to keep playing when all they're getting is a -EV game and
nothing more... great!
these days most casinos, even tiny places far smaller than Rampart,
seem to understand this. there must be something in the water up in
Summerlin, with Suncoast and now Rampart getting all angry and
aggressive.
best wishes,
five
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TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@yahoo.com> wrote:
No matter what, if all those jackpots belonged to YOU personally...even over the course of a year...you basically hurt a small casino like that. Of COURSE they're going to throw you out!