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Gaming errors I have benefited from.

#1

Dont laugh

  1. in70s or 80s, mechanical reel slot. Caesars nickel slot with progressive. then machine would spit coins when hitting. Ever hit gave one extra coin. Hit 2 coins on a cherry and get 3. Hit 10 get 11 etc. For 2 or 3 days I played. On vacation & had to eat on be a vacationer too. One other person noticed the little flaw. I get off & he be there. I go back & play after he done. The nickel jackpot was about $800 if memory right. So time to eat. Went Holiday Inn buffet. Couldn’t wait to get back… Jackpot gone & reset. That was before VP.

I have more on modern games. But I don’t have time now.

Cheers…Jeep

#2

More benefits.

  1. frontier (going back again) 4kd sevens bonus about 1200+ , a signer $1 bar top. Someone hit. Progressive never reset. I hit 7s shortly after. House had to think about it a while. Then paid me.

  2. In Taj Mahal AC , found a single machine that gave 10 points every time should have got 1 point. Not a big find but CB was was good then. Lasted about 3 weeks.

  3. Taj Mahal again. Long ago. Coin in coin out. $5 VP . While playing I dropped a $1 coin in by accident. Machine coined up. $1 again. So I played. Made nice profit. Problem was payouts then were in coin. No validators. Once the hopper was out of $5 coins Dollars started coming out.

  4. Some of $5 coin slots would jam a lot. If you tipped good for jackpots the attendants would spot player

2 or 3 coins when unjamming coin slot. I know, it sounds petty. Coins in fast would tend to cause slot to jam. Doesn’t seem like a lot, but 10 coin jams in long session net $100 -$150.

  1. Colorado Belle , Laughlin Nv. Not benefit but interesting. Playing $1 progressive. Jackpot close to

$10,000. Bartender saying it stops at 10. But, kept running right past 10. It climbed to $10,400 or so.

Suddenly it leapt back to ten thousand. The locals went wild. A few went to management to complain.

Soon after complaining the progressive was reset to like $10,550 or so. That was different. I played

till progressive went off. I passed on using my tickets to Kenny Rogers. I didn’t hit the progressive.

  1. I carry a small jotter note book wallet size. I keep credit cards, ID, playing notes etc.

When playing I keep $500 in book as emergency $$. In Taj Mahal AC I lost book, money $ all. Talking

to host, I asked how do I collect signer money with no ID if I hit. . She said, "If u hit, have them call me.

I’ll identify you. " Didn’t hit. However, my host gave me a $500 cash comp to replace my loss. I was

very surprised and pleased. Taj Mahal AC was always good to me, I miss the joint.

No big deals , but always nice to get a little spiff from the house.

Cheers…Jeep

#3

Many years ago before I understood anything about VP odds I ran into a wonderful set of machines on a Carnival Cruise. It was the week after the Inaugural cruise so all the machines were brand new. I tried playing some kind of Bonus Poker Progressive machine and I couldn’t figure out why I was winning so much! Lots of four of a kinds and they were all progressives. The four machines were quarters but the progressives started at $250 and Aces was $600. Later figured out they should have started at $62.50 and $150. Machines had to run quarters through to pay you out and all of the casino employees knew my name soon! I kept my husband busy running buckets of quarters to the cage.

Another man was in there every hour the casino was open and I can tell now that he had figured out their error…but he wasn’t getting quite as many 4OAKs as I was. (But he still did pretty good!) Later I took the notes I had made about the wins with me on our trip to Vegas and figured out they had set the machines incorrectly. I wonder how long they kept those machines set at those odds? We carried over $10,000 in cash off that ship :slight_smile:

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#4

I never liked ‘Dbl-Dbl-Bonus’ until I found these new (at the time) GameMaker (Bally) machines in a linked bank, with Prog on all 4Ks and the RF. It was a 9/5 game, and for .25, too risky for me.

One day , I went back to check (local Indian casino Sycuan) and the denom was changed to .05c (yes .25c bet!), but progs were reset as : basic (5-Kings 4k) : $25, (2-4s), $40, (Aces) $80, (2-4s with kicker) $80, Aces with (2-4 kicker) $200, and RF $600. You can check the math, it was about 121% or so at base reset!

A few weeks in, (I hit the last RF $600+), the RF was downgraded to “$250” reset value, but 4k meters still the same. During a 4 month run, there were even a months’ worth of 4K bonus coupons ($2 value), but you collected them every time you hit 4K, cashable in $10 increments. Needless to say, I got to know MOST of the change persons, who began to regularly hang out near that bank (a few $$ tip was worth it to have quick service on the 4K coupon checks, like MSS scratchers, the 4Ks had to be ‘verified’ by a change person)…

One estimate gave about $20-25/hourly return rate!

I was a ‘pro’ vp’er - if only for a few months time…lol!

The only other error I can recall was when Viejas had these old (Reno- vp/stand alone ) 6/5 prog.
J/B game with only 20-1 (100 coin) payout on 4k. Very low at 95% or worse.

One day (they were .25 / 1.25 max bet for prog RF), I checked, and they were similarly chg’d in denom from quarter to .05c (.25 c max bet req’d for the RF!). RF reset was $1000 vs $200 and when I hit it ($1013 or somesuch), it was closed down for ‘maintenance’. From that day onward, it was $250 reset and unplayable!

I was fortunate, as I discovered it when casino was still ‘new’ (i.e - not crowded), and it was a Friday evening after work, only had $60 on me to play with, but hit enough 4ks, FHs, etc to play until I was down to my last $5 of $60, when I held 3cd RF and filled the royal…

Ah- the memories… Sycuan’s play was better, lasted longer.

M.M. San Diego