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#21

NSUD will become FPDW to the new generation of AP because someone sells them that idea with a book or video.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dealt4oak" <dealt4oak@...> wrote:

Exactly full pay is the highest available pay scale "at the time." You didn't really say anything different than I did. I do think NSUD can become known as full pay as a new generation of advantage players comes into existence and FPDW disappears. Different generations of players will definitely have an affect on naming. I hear it now when I talk to newer players.

#22

Pumsparky wrote: NSUD will become FPDW to the new generation of AP because someone sells them that idea with a book or video.

  I agree with Cogno on this one. "Full Pay," when you're specifically speaking of FPDW, does not mean what full pay does in other contexts. FPDW is a particular pay schedule --- namely 15-9-5-3-2-1-1 at the bottom end --- and "full pay" is part of the common name. Although FPDW will largely disappear in a year or two, one or two old machines will probably survive --- likely for a decade or more. Although I prefer the "highest pay table available" definition of "full pay," that definition isn't universal. Casinos have used the word to mean a variety of things. Station used it to mean 100% games (which means 9/6 JoB is NOT full pay over there) and Silverton uses the term to refer to one bank of Multi Strike machines (where the best game is 8/5 Bonus return 99.37%) and two Quick Quad Wheel Poker machines (where the best game returns about 99.5%). NSU has a perfectly good nickname --- i.e. NSU. Anyone who starts calling that game FPDW will meet with strong resistance. Bob

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#23

Bob Dancer wrote "...Anyone who starts calling that game FPDW will meet with strong resistance. Bob..."

I was corrected on the ACVPP board as to 10/6 DDB being FP. Looked it up on VPFREE2; FP DDB is 9/6 (@98.98%). My heart sank remembering the "devil game" when first introduced. Don't know who coined that phrase back in Skip's day?

There's merit to keeping iterations showing games that "in and of themselves" have a theoretical advantage. Keeps hope alive that better days are ahead.

I believe it is in-line with a policy of this group:
"...vpFREE is dedicated to sharing, promoting and preserving good video poker situations that can survive and prosper in an open market environment..."
http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/POL.htm
as well as the dogma:
http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/FAQ.htm

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:

Pumsparky wrote: NSUD will become FPDW to the new generation of AP because someone sells them that idea with a book or video.

  I agree with Cogno on this one. "Full Pay," when you're specifically speaking of FPDW, does not mean what full pay does in other contexts. FPDW is a particular pay schedule --- namely 15-9-5-3-