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I suggest that you tune in to the same show on November 21st where the same topic will be addressed.

In a message dated 11/1/2013 9:07:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bobbar…@…com writes:

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This is not a documentary. A documentary is something that is factual, hard, historical, literal, matter-of-fact,nonfictional, objective and true . There and numerous instances in this film that do not adhere to such standards by definition. However, I guess the producers don’t care about that and just need to sell their product.


Thanks for the lesson on using a dictionary. lol I’m guessing you know someone in the “film” that you think is innocent.

I will listen to it November 21st, just like I do every week. But why all the cryptic nonsense? I’m not a mind reader. Why don’t you just make a point?

I suggest that you tune in to the same show on November 21st where the same topic will be addressed.

In a message dated 11/1/2013 9:07:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bobbartop@… writes:

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—In vpF…@…com, <vpf…@…com> wrote:

This is not a documentary. A documentary is something that is factual, hard, historical, literal, matter-of-fact,nonfictional, objective and true . There and numerous instances in this film that do not adhere to such standards by definition. However, I guess the producers don’t care about that and just need to sell their product.


Thanks for the lesson on using a dictionary. lol I’m guessing you know someone in the “film” that you think is innocent.

Yes Countgr8’s post was somewhat cryptic. Let me fill in
some back story, hopefully without stepping on his toes.

The rules of evidence in a documentary are not the same as
they are in a court of law. The fact that Russ Hamilton was significantly
guilty in the Ultimate Bet fiasco isn’t in dispute. He has been the public fall
guy for the scandal. Exactly who else was involved is less clear.

The director of UltimateBeat, Scott Bell, apparently
took the point of view that if you knew
Hamilton more than casually, there’s a good chance you were somehow involved in
the scandal. There’s one place in the film where Countgr8 is shown in the same
scene as Hamilton — and presumably that is what he is objecting to on this
forum. (I would too if that happened to me, although probably not so crypticly!)

Munchkin and I noticed a number of people we knew who were included
in the documentary without apparent good reason (including Countgr8). At the
end of the show, Munchkin asks why one of them is included — specifically Joe
Pane (who is not the same guy as Countgr8). Scott Bell gave a list of reasons
Pane was included — including that it was very clear Pane knew Hamilton.
(That part is true but it’s a long stretch between two people knowing each
other and both of them being equally guilty in something.) It was somewhat
random that Richard asked about Joe Pane specifically. There were a significant
number of other people we could have asked about.

Joe Pane asked to come on the show and rebut what was said.
Munchkin and I have booked him for the show November 21. (The intervening dates
were already booked. November 7, video poker writer and player “Royal Cat”.
November 14, Michael Shackleford talking about football parlay cards.) Only 3-5
minutes of the November 21 show will be spent on the rebuttal. (That part is
important to Pane but not particularly interesting radio to most other people.)
Pane has lots of other interesting things to talk about.

Bob

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