Unless SL has went to a new theo-based comp system in the past 60 days
then it's a straight .3 for VP and .33 for senior VP players.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
The technique for figuring out the El Dorado comp system should also
work at the Silver Legacy.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@>
wrote:
>
>
> Yesterday I wrote: Sometimes there is no efficient way to
determine
> what a played dollar/dollars buys in comps. This is particularly
> true in the Reno area, where a "Don't Ask/Won't Tell" philosophy
> pervades many of the card clubs.
> ==================================================
> Mickey Crimm later posted what he believed were comp rates at the
El
> Dorado (.05%) and the Silver Legacy (.03%). He did mention that
he
> hadn't played at either place for some time.
>
> Subsequently, other players posted that they had kept track of
> accruing comps at the ED & SL, as they played. gmblnmn and
tomflush
> both stated that at the ED, they were receiving $5 in comps for
each
> $5000 c/i., or the rate of .01%.
>
> At this point two local Reno friends wrote to me to explain the
> comp rate for >100% VP was considerably less than for <100% VP.
>
> Donald Wood countered this by stating that he was receiving $5
> in comps for $1000 c/i, or the rate of .05%, while playing 10/7DB
at
> the ED.
>
> The Reno properties that I was referring to in my OP, as
> having "Don't Ask, Won't Tell" card clubs, were Peppermill and
> Atlantis. I was told by some frequent and IMO very knowledgable
> players at those establishmemts, that no one that they are
> aware of, has cracked the comps to dollar ratio at those two
> casinos. Apparently, with conflicting information from various
> players, it isn't too much easier to figure out the rate at El
> Dorado or Silver Legacy either. So, I guess that I'll stick with
> the statement in my OP.
>
> Because on each Reno visit, my accrued comps have always been
> sufficient to cover my expenses in addition to generating nice
> future offers and FP amounts, I have never delved into this
subject
> previously. However, now I am curious. I hope that some talented
> player and math person (NOTI, are you listening?) will take up
the
> challenge and post some informed answers about ALL the major Reno
> properties.
>
> ~Babe~
>
>
Actually, Babe, the El Dorado should be easy to figure out.
Though
I haven't been there for awhile I did play pretty heavily there for
awhile. Back then the comp rate for video poker was .625%.Slots could be 1.25% or 2%. They did have banks that gave up 2%. I
know this because I played the bonus slots like Cherry Pies and so
forth. I'm sure they are all gone now.I played the dollar 9/6 Jacks progressives. At one time all the
bartops of all their bars were dollar 9/6 prog., and all on the
same
meter. They got alot of short coin action as well as full coin.
This
was good for the AP's.
Then ED went for the technology update. They put brand new MG/MD
machines in all their bartops. The dollar 9/6 progs were still
there
but buried up amongst all the other games and denoms. But they
were
no longer on the same meter. All the bars had different meters.
There was like 7 or 8 different bars to check to see where the
progressives were at. Even at the High Roller Room, one side of
the
of the bar had their own meter and the other side of the bar had a
different meter.I also played dollar KBJW upstairs until it got squashed. And I
played the twenty-coin nickel 9/6 Jacks prog. and the quarter 9/6
Jacks prog. They even had 10/6 DDJ.When they went for the technology update they also updated their
slot
club system to self comp. The system was still Don't Ask/Won't
Tell
but it was easy to figure out. They put kiosks around the casino
where you could check your comp balance at any time. They showed
dollars and cents.So I would go up to a kiosk and write down what my comp balance was
(for example, $127.31) then go to a machine and countdown a wager.
It took me a few attempts to get the exact speed of the meter
because
it traveled at .625%. I finally zeroed in on a $200 wager. That's
forty games at dollar 9/6. Then I would go check my comp balance.
It would be up $1.25. That told me it was a .625% meter.In the case of the quarter games there was some kind of delayed
reaction going on. I would run the action then go to the kiosk but
the number hadn't budged. But the money would be there the next
day. I finally figured out that, when I got through playing, if I
pulled my card out for a few seconds, then stuck it back in and
played one more hand the money would then be pulled up on the
kiosk.
I have no idea why it worked like that but it did.
They put in the twenty coin nickel 9/6 prog right where some bonus
games used to be and I knew that bank ran 2% comp. So I timed the
meter and sure enough the 9/6 was giving up 2% comp. Theres
nothing
like running $25 an hour comp on a game where you are only betting
$1
per hand. It was fun while it lasted.
So what someone is going to have to do is the same thing I did. Go
in and write down what they have in the kiosk, then go run some
action, like $100, then go check their balance again. If it's up
only 10 cents it a .1% meter, if it's up 50 cents it's a .5%
meter.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
> In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@> wrote:
And I would check all the different games just to make sure. Good
luck.