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I was there July 29-August 1 and couldn't not find a single $5 single
line 9-6 Jacks or Better machine. All the $5 Gamemakers were 8-5,
with no exceptions.
Everything else is as stated within the site.
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I was there July 29-August 1 and couldn't not find a single $5
single
line 9-6 Jacks or Better machine. All the $5 Gamemakers were 8-5,
with no exceptions.Everything else is as stated within the site.
They are there. I saw them today and throughout the month. This
person just didn't look hard enough. The one in the Earth is the
center of the three machines. The two in the Sky are the second ones
in (of the seven) from the left and the right. [All are in the high
limit areas.]
They are there. I saw them today and throughout the month. This
person just didn't look hard enough. The one in the Earth is the
center of the three machines. The two in the Sky are the second ones
in (of the seven) from the left and the right. [All are in the high
limit areas.
Stevie,
Thanks for the info. I retired from my desk job end of June. My wife
and I have spent four weeks in Nevada and two weeks in Boston. Got back
from our last Nevada trip on Wednesday and won't be going back for four
weeks. So, we will be visiting MS.
1) We call our host at MS to see if there are any tournaments planned.
She had sent us a letter listing shows for the next couple of months.
The letter said she her title is now Vice President of Marketing. Left
her a voice message but no response last few days.
2) So. we called VIP and reserved a room for Wednesday night. Want to
see Rich Little but all shows are booked. Left our host another voice
message to see if she can score us a couple of tickets. No response but
its only been two days.
3) We fly on America West. The airfare is consistently between $200 and
$250. Some postings on the parent board have talked about airfare
reimbursement at about $100K action. Going to have to look into that
even with reasonable airfares as we gamble about $30K/day and usually
stay 3 nights/casino.
4) We get numerous offers from Nevada casinos of free play, shopping
sprees, tournaments and drawings. On average, I would peg the value of
each of these offers at $300/person.
5) When we call Nevada hosts/VIP services, they can be just as
dazed/confused as our MS contacts. The difference seems to be they have
time to resolve problems.
6)Seems the competition in Vegas drives the good offers we receive.
Competition is wonderful but there may be a lot less with the mergers.
7)Vegas houses are expensive! One quote I will remember: "Vegas houses
used to be reasonable; now they are expensive but they still are built
with paper mache" 
8)Renting a house in Vegas is reasonable. A $300K house that used to be
$150K 2/3 years ago still rents for about $1K/month.
9)It can be dangerously hot in Nevada. We were there when they were
breaking records. Several days in Laughlin it was over 125F; Vegas was
115F several days in a row. We drove to Utah and it was 110F with
forest fire pollution reducing visibility.
10) We will be selling our house now that our nest is empty. Until the
bubble bursts, we could afford to buy a Summer home in Western Mass and
have a Winter home in Nevada. Maybe a condo in Laughlin, or just rent.
A two bedroom rents for about $600 in Laughlin.
Haaljo
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "haaljo" <haaljo@y...>
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6)Seems the competition in Vegas drives the good offers we receive.
Competition is wonderful but there may be a lot less with the
mergers.
The Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) is about to decide on two major
cases involving the recognition of two CT tribes who plan to build
casinos here if approved. The Eastern Pequots are based in North
Stonington right next to the Mashantucket Pequots who have Foxwoods.
The Schaghticokes are based in Kent but want to build a casino in
Danbury or Bridgeport. Both were granted recognition a couple years
ago, but then the State's Attorney General and Govenor Rell, whom are
steadfastly opposed to any further casinos, appealed their
recognitions to the Department of Interior's appellate department and
won. The cases are thus brought back to the BIA for final decisions -
- September 12 for the Eastern Pequots and October 12 for the
Schaghticokes. The central issue involved is whether the tribes
remained together continuously throughout the 1800's. This is often
hard for tribes to prove since records were not kept as well as they
are today, the people from that era are dead, and Indians were
castigated often having to keep a low profile or move. The State's
appeal was able to reject some of the tribes' evidence, but they were
given the opportunity to submit additional evidence in support of any
deficiencies in time continuity.
These cases are going to be a close call. The State also repealled
its Las Vegas nights law which was the foundation by which Foxwoods
and Mohegan Sun were able to open. This would present another legal
hurdle but more of a small one that would aim to tie up the tribes'
time in court. Hopefully the tribes will prevail and add nice
competition and better VP offerings.
I do not know why the Govenor and Attorney General are so opposed to
the casinos. They bring in much money and I think raise the quality
of life compared to the rest of entertainment or establishments
offered in CT.
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Foxwoods is having double points in September. Same hours as usual:
Su 8-11a, 6-8p, 10-Mid; Mo-Fr 2-4a,8-10a,12-2p,6-8p,10-Mid(except
Fr); Sa 8-11a
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "steviemcc1"
I do not know why the Govenor and Attorney General are so opposed to
the casinos. They bring in much money and I think raise the quality
of life compared to the rest of entertainment or establishments
offered in CT.
I remember reading somewhere that the agreement between Foxwoods and
the state of CT was that if the state allowed other casinos to open
then they (Foxwoods) would no longer provide revenue to the state. I
could be wrong...I'll have to see if I can find that article/web page.
I agree that additional casinos would create competition and be better
for the players; (hopefully) forcing the casinos to offer better odds
to retain people. I keep hoping for a casino in MA but the idiots in
the state house are afraid that it would reduce their lottery revenue.
I don't think they realize that most of the people who buy lottery also
go to the casinos and if there was one in MA, closer to home, that is
where they would go; providing revenue to the state.
The only way a "real" casino would be built in Mass. is if the one
recognized tribe (Wampanoag)was able to build same. I think they could
operate Class II - bingo/keno including Oklahoma electronic Bingo
machines - without State approval but their reservation is on Martha's
Vineyard.
Anything else will be like Rhode Island's Video Lottery Terminals. VLT
operations are run by the State Lottery and have about the same EV
I understand Rhode Island's Narragansett tribe is the ONLY First Nation
in the Country that is explicity required to receive State approval for
ANY gambling operations. Since RI has VLT's, I think the State would
have be hard pressed to stop them except for this Federal loophole.
Predictions:
Mass/RI - no action as long as possible.
New Hampshire - Video Lottery Terminals.
Maine - Racino in Northern Maine.
Eastern New York - Racinos.
Pennsylvania - Atlantic City causing PA to allow real slot machines.
Mohegan's bought a PA racetrack - See:
http://www.citizensvoice.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14901516
So, maybe PA will provide competition.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "jack_bravo" <jb1805@m...>
wrote:
I keep hoping for a casino in MA but the idiots in
the state house are afraid that it would reduce their lottery
revenue.
I don't think they realize that most of the people who buy lottery
also
go to the casinos and if there was one in MA, closer to home, that is
where they would go; providing revenue to the state.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "jack_bravo" <jb1805@m...>
wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "steviemcc1"
> I do not know why the Govenor and Attorney General are so opposed
to
> the casinos. They bring in much money and I think raise the
quality
> of life compared to the rest of entertainment or establishments
> offered in CT.
>I remember reading somewhere that the agreement between Foxwoods
and
the state of CT was that if the state allowed other casinos to open
then they (Foxwoods) would no longer provide revenue to the state.
I
could be wrong...I'll have to see if I can find that article/web
page.
Foxwoods, (and subsequently Mohegan Sun) were able to open based on
the existing Las Vegas nights statute which allowed usually charities
the ability to obtain a temporary license to run "Las Vegas nights"
for small amounts of money or prizes. These have been essentially
table games. The Fed's have allowed Indian tribes only to operate
what is also available to the public in a particular state. So this
would not include slots (& VP). [In fact, the State has just
recently compelled Foxwoods to shut down their internet game cards,
since they have never allowed internet gaming.] However, Govenor
Weicker at the time struck a deal with the Indians allowing slots if
they give 25% of the net slot revenue to the State. This was a wise
move benefiting both parties since the casinos were going to open
anyways, even without slots, and has produced a windfall for the
State. Note: both casinos pay nothing to the State from table
games. Eventually, the State talked about opening their own casino,
possibly in Bridgeport, but this was shut down. Now if the State had
done this and offered slots, this would form the basis for the
Indians to now have the right to offer slots -- thereby relieving
them of the necessity to continue with the present pact of paying 25%
to the State. However, the basis would not be formed if the State
just gave a new Indian tribe the same deal.