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Full Pay VP Has All But Disappeared

#1

Hi everyone I am new to the group but have been reading this site for
more than a year. By far the best information on video poker anywhere
and I thank you all for that

I am leaving for Vegas Satuday June 25th till June 30. Am going alone
as wife can't get the time off work so it is mostly a gambling trip.
DDBP is my favourite game but will play most games as long as it is
video poker and not slots. However I find JOB to be the most boring
game around and don't play alot of it. Love those bonus games for 4
aces and 2,3,or 4s.
I will play VB for perhaps 12-14 hours a day while in Vegas and mostly
downtown.

My key to success has been certain casinos rather than just hunting out
the best pay tables. An example is Main Street and also the California
casinos downtown. I seem to get many quads playing there and can often
come out ahead without hitting a royal for my trips. It seems at
certain casinos I just never hit much no matter what the pay table is
and I suppose we all have our favourites. The only casino I even play
on the strip is Stardust as my luck has been good on VP there. The
Palms has some good paytables but my luck is just not good in that
Casino so I stay away. Sams Town is another favourite.
Does this logic make any sense to any of you or is it just luck that
some casinos seem to pay off more?

Seems everytime I read about updates to the video poker data base it is
the downgrading of machines and the disappearance of full pay or near
full pay machines.
I feel that full pay will be a thing of the past soon(almost is now)
and all of us players will have to get used to either playing with
lousy paytables or find another hobby. You never see casinos upgrading
the paytables in our favour but rather just downgrades.
I am just a recreational player who goes to Vegas maybe 3 times a year
and play mostly for the enjoyment and the outing it provides.

If anyone has any comments on what I wrote it would be interesting to
hear. I will be back from Vegas June 30th. Again thanks to all who
share their knowledge and thoughts on the great game of VP!!!

#2

Does this logic make any sense to any of you or is it just luck that
some casinos seem to pay off more?

Sounds like luck to me, and selective memory (you play less in the
other casinos, therefore you get fewer jackpots there, therefore you
don't remember hitting many jackpots there, therefore you play there
less). Plus it takes an awful lot of play to even out the luck factor
(after a few million hands the number of RFs one can hit still varies
by 10% or more). Casinos obviously have no interest in making jackpots
appear more often than they "naturally" would, and tweaking the
behavior of the machines either way is illegal in NV. Common wisdom
says that they're profitable without cheating and that the industry is
competently regulated and monitored, hence they don't have much
interest in cheating.

Seems everytime I read about updates to the video poker data base it is
the downgrading of machines and the disappearance of full pay or near
full pay machines.

I'll blame your selective memory as well. It's not "every time". E.g.
Silver Legacy in Reno upgrading a 3rd bank of 25c FPDW to be
progressive isn't a bad deal. You may be biased by the fact that the
database explicitly lists the machines that disappear but not the ones
that appear. The database still contains enough full-pay machines to
be able to play just about anything you want.

I am just a recreational player who goes to Vegas maybe 3 times a year
and play mostly for the enjoyment and the outing it provides.

Sounds like varying your games might not be a bad idea. Some
well-chosen table games can offer some change of scenery while eating
little in your bankroll. On the other hand if VP is really your thing
(in which case you're on the right mailing list), go for it!

Enjoy your trip.

JBQ

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On 6/22/05, staywarm <staywarm@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi everyone I am new to the group but have been reading this site for
more than a year. By far the best information on video poker anywhere
and I thank you all for that

I am leaving for Vegas Satuday June 25th till June 30. Am going alone
as wife can't get the time off work so it is mostly a gambling trip.
DDBP is my favourite game but will play most games as long as it is
video poker and not slots. However I find JOB to be the most boring
game around and don't play alot of it. Love those bonus games for 4
aces and 2,3,or 4s.
I will play VB for perhaps 12-14 hours a day while in Vegas and mostly
downtown.

My key to success has been certain casinos rather than just hunting out
the best pay tables. An example is Main Street and also the California
casinos downtown. I seem to get many quads playing there and can often
come out ahead without hitting a royal for my trips. It seems at
certain casinos I just never hit much no matter what the pay table is
and I suppose we all have our favourites. The only casino I even play
on the strip is Stardust as my luck has been good on VP there. The
Palms has some good paytables but my luck is just not good in that
Casino so I stay away. Sams Town is another favourite.
Does this logic make any sense to any of you or is it just luck that
some casinos seem to pay off more?

Seems everytime I read about updates to the video poker data base it is
the downgrading of machines and the disappearance of full pay or near
full pay machines.
I feel that full pay will be a thing of the past soon(almost is now)
and all of us players will have to get used to either playing with
lousy paytables or find another hobby. You never see casinos upgrading
the paytables in our favour but rather just downgrades.
I am just a recreational player who goes to Vegas maybe 3 times a year
and play mostly for the enjoyment and the outing it provides.

If anyone has any comments on what I wrote it would be interesting to
hear. I will be back from Vegas June 30th. Again thanks to all who
share their knowledge and thoughts on the great game of VP!!!

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#3

I feel that full pay will be a thing of the past soon(almost is now)
and all of us players will have to get used to either playing with
lousy paytables or find another hobby. You never see casinos upgrading

Don't forget that there are also other locations to find VP. Reno,
Harrah's North of Topeka Kansas, ... Maybe going somewhere other that
Vegas is worth looking into.

dipy911

PS Congrats to whoever won the $40,000 dealt royal.