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Pid_Stu · January 14, 2020, 4:43pm

Now I'm really confused as I am looking at this link http://users.aol.com/terryk1250/2s_howto.htm-- TK VP basics link from vpFree page:

The first line says "Here are some basic do's and don'ts for DEUCES WILD:

Play Only Full Pay Deuces Wild [1,2,2,3,5,9,15,25,200,800] DEUCES WILD FULL PAY [Click Here"

When I click there it gives me the following table: (http://users.aol.com/terryk1250/pays_2s.htm)

"FULL PAY" DEUCES WILD
HAND

1 coin

2

3

4

5

Royal Flush

250

500

750

1000

4000
FOUR DEUCES
200

400

600

800

*1000*

Wild Royal (w/2's)

25

50

75

100

125
Five of a Kind
15

30

45

60

75

Straight Flush

9

18

27

36

45
Four of a Kind
5

10

15

20

25

Full House

3

6

9

12

15
Flush
2

4

6

8

10

Straight

2

4

6

8

10

Three of a kind

1

2

3

4

5

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Obvisouly, the RF in the table pays 250 for one coin, however, above that it said 800:

The vpFree Pay table says 800 and there is not a 250 for a RF anywhere on the list... Wizard of odd 800 as well....

Thought I had it as 800, and now I have discovered the conflict. They both can't be FP can they. Huge difference between 250 and 800. Is this a semantics thing?

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Albert_Pearson · January 14, 2020, 6:03pm

Most machines pay a lower amount for the Royal Flush on bets of less than 5 coins.
Typically this amount is 250 per coin and then when you bet 5 coins you get 4000 coins.
If you average the 4000 coins to a per coin payoff i.e. 4000 / 5 you get 800 coins paid out per coin bet.
The confusion occurs because many people will say 800 coins per coin on the royal flush where they technically should be qualifying that as 800 coins per coin average if betting full coins.
As you have noticed there are machines out there that pay 800 per coin right off the bat so that there is no bonus for playing max coins. In that situation you play the number of coins that you are comfortable with.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Pid Stu
  To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 10:36 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Full Pay DW does it pay 250 or 800 for the RF I see it both ways??

Obvisouly, the RF in the table pays 250 for one coin, however, above that it said 800:

The vpFree Pay table says 800 and there is not a 250 for a RF anywhere on the list... Wizard of odd 800 as well....

Thought I had it as 800, and now I have discovered the conflict. They both can't be FP can they. Huge difference between 250 and 800. Is this a semantics thing?

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Pid_Stu · January 14, 2020, 6:03pm

Thank you AP now I got it (again).. It is confusing cause somebody (like me probably) would be looking all over for the 800 for one coin just like the lists and never find one!!! You saved me a lot of walking...and some silly casino reporting..

Pid

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Albert Pearson <a-p@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Most machines pay a lower amount for the Royal Flush on bets of less than 5 coins.
Typically this amount is 250 per coin and then when you bet 5 coins you get 4000 coins.
If you average the 4000 coins to a per coin payoff i.e. 4000 / 5 you get 800 coins paid out per coin bet.
The confusion occurs because many people will say 800 coins per coin on the royal flush where they technically should be qualifying that as 800 coins per coin average if betting full coins.
As you have noticed there are machines out there that pay 800 per coin right off the bat so that there is no bonus for playing max coins. In that situation you play the number of coins that you are comfortable with.

Regards
A.P.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Pid Stu
  To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 10:36 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Full Pay DW does it pay 250 or 800 for the RF I see it both ways??

Obvisouly, the RF in the table pays 250 for one coin, however, above that it said 800:

The vpFree Pay table says 800 and there is not a 250 for a RF anywhere on the list... Wizard of odd 800 as well....

Thought I had it as 800, and now I have discovered the conflict. They both can't be FP can they. Huge difference between 250 and 800. Is this a semantics thing?

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