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On a slightly smaller scale... I had a windbreaker stolen from my seat at
Ellis Island. I went up to the head security guy and asked him to look at the
video of the area. He told me there were no cameras on the area or something.

About the Wynn, The second 65 floor tower will be open in Dec 08, so I
heard. I bet there are many doors like that, possibly made to be hard to close by
wads of paper in the frame or something. Employees could be burglars too.

If all your legal courses end then I'd say picket on the sidewalk and try
and interest local TV stations in doing a story. Maybe other victims will come
forward and you could do a class action on Wynn.
Drain

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In a message dated 12/19/2007 11:15:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
vpking77@yahoo.com writes:

I just heard from reader Mike Kaighan, who has a dilemma. He says he
and his wife stayed at Wynn Las Vegas in August, comped in a tower
suite because of his gaming history with Wynn.

On the last evening, he says he returned to his suite in the wee
hours with about $4,600. Along with $1,000 he left in the room, he
says he had $5,600 -- $5,000 of which he intended to use to pay a
casino marker and $600 to take home as winnings.

When he awoke, he "noticed that our suite door was ajar, and that my
wallet was noticeably empty of all cash," he wrote in a letter to
Wynn. "Clearly, someone had entered the parlor area of our suite
while we were sleeping."

He called hotel security and filed a report that noted his wife's
discovery that the door to the suite didn't completely close unless
slammed. He says he was unaware of that when he returned there with
the cash.

Nearly four months later, Kaighan -- who says he works as a fraud
investigator for a security consulting firm -- says he has gotten
the brushoff and not much compassion. He wonders whether security
tapes from elevators, hallways and the casino, or a chat with the
guard at the entrance to the tower elevator would back up his story
and reveal an intruder.

In his business, "I know that taking care of my customers and clients
is of the utmost importance. Being that I am a client and was a
guest of the Wynn, I feel the same treatment should be applied," he
writes. "There has not even been one phone call from any person at
the Wynn to ensure me that anything was being done regarding my loss."

Wynn spokeswoman Jennifer Dunne says she doesn't have the specifics
of the case at hand, but that "normally we don't comment on the guest
experience or security procedures."

Meanwhile, what do readers in and out of the industry think about
this? Have you lost money at a hotel or had to deal with guest claims
of missing loot? I would think hotels deal constantly with uproars
over missing money (I have stashed $$ in a secret spot in my luggage,
forgotten I did it and at first thought a hotel staffer had filched
it).

How do hotels handle these issues? Reminds me of the reader who wrote
to tell me her wedding ring disappeared from her room, but she
couldn't prove what happened to it.

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Anyone care to contribute to a fund to buy Drain a new jacket? I
really think that he deserves some support from other forum members
during this trying time. I'll start it off with a crisp, new dollar
bill.

Drain is WORTH it! No one on this board provides more laughs to us,
free of charge, than Drain!

I also think that the security guard was lying to Drain. Everything
in the casino is on camera. I would think that the suits would at
least want to investigate this crime......that is, if they can take
some time off from trespassing the local flea population!

~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, DRAlNBRAMAGE@... wrote:

On a slightly smaller scale... I had a windbreaker stolen from my
seat at Ellis Island. I went up to the head security guy and asked
him to look at the video of the area. He told me there were no
cameras on the area or something.......

Why is this so difficult??: PUT IT IN THE ROOM SAFE. DUH!!!! Geez,
I have jewelry that isn't anything special, and worth <$1000
combined, and I put it there every time! OR...any casino (or most
hotels, for that matter) has safe deposit boxes, all you have to do
is ask. Or couldn't it be held for him by the casino cashier? Or,
or, or??? And this guy is a fraud investigator??!! OMG! No sympathy
here...any beginner traveller knows not to leave that much money
unsecured in a hotel room, whether you're in it or not. Plus
there's a SIGN right on the door of every hotel room that usually
says "management not responsible..." bla bla. Maybe if people were
more practical and less with the arrogant 'it can't happen to me'
attitude... It doesn't matter if one is a "client and guest of" a
hotel or not. COMMON SENSE!!! This guy's SOL and he has nobody to
blame but himself. The hotel will legally argue (quite successfully)
that warnings were posted (again, check the room sign) and that a
safe/ deposit box was available. Also, if he is a repeat customer/
guest, and has established a pattern of staying/playing there, and on
top of that is in security/fraud investigation, he should have a
reasonable knowledge of personal property security options available.

Mary

In a message dated 12/19/2007 11:15:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
vpking77@... writes:

I just heard from reader Mike Kaighan, who has a dilemma. He says

he

and his wife stayed at Wynn Las Vegas in August, comped in a tower
suite because of his gaming history with Wynn.

On the last evening, he says he returned to his suite in the wee
hours with about $4,600. Along with $1,000 he left in the room, he
says he had $5,600 -- $5,000 of which he intended to use to pay a
casino marker and $600 to take home as winnings.

When he awoke, he "noticed that our suite door was ajar, and that

my

wallet was noticeably empty of all cash," he wrote in a letter to
Wynn. "Clearly, someone had entered the parlor area of our suite
while we were sleeping."

He called hotel security and filed a report that noted his wife's
discovery that the door to the suite didn't completely close

unless

slammed. He says he was unaware of that when he returned there

with

the cash.

Nearly four months later, Kaighan -- who says he works as a fraud
investigator for a security consulting firm -- says he has gotten
the brushoff and not much compassion. He wonders whether security
tapes from elevators, hallways and the casino, or a chat with the
guard at the entrance to the tower elevator would back up his

story

and reveal an intruder.

In his business, "I know that taking care of my customers and

clients

is of the utmost importance. Being that I am a client and was a
guest of the Wynn, I feel the same treatment should be applied,"

he

writes. "There has not even been one phone call from any person at
the Wynn to ensure me that anything was being done regarding my

loss."

Wynn spokeswoman Jennifer Dunne says she doesn't have the

specifics

of the case at hand, but that "normally we don't comment on the

guest

experience or security procedures."

Meanwhile, what do readers in and out of the industry think about
this? Have you lost money at a hotel or had to deal with guest

claims

of missing loot? I would think hotels deal constantly with uproars
over missing money (I have stashed $$ in a secret spot in my

luggage,

forgotten I did it and at first thought a hotel staffer had

filched

it).

How do hotels handle these issues? Reminds me of the reader who

wrote

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to tell me her wedding ring disappeared from her room, but she
couldn't prove what happened to it.

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killbondnow <killbondnow@yahoo.com> wrote: Why is this so difficult??: PUT IT IN THE ROOM SAFE. DUH!!!! Geez,
I have jewelry that isn't anything special, and worth <$1000
combined, and I put it there every time! OR...any casino (or most
hotels, for that matter) has safe deposit boxes, all you have to do
is ask. Or couldn't it be held for him by the casino cashier? Or,
or, or??? And this guy is a fraud investigator??!! OMG! No sympathy
here...any beginner traveller knows not to leave that much money
unsecured in a hotel room, whether you're in it or not. Plus
there's a SIGN right on the door of every hotel room that usually
says "management not responsible..." bla bla. Maybe if people were
more practical and less with the arrogant 'it can't happen to me'
attitude... It doesn't matter if one is a "client and guest of" a
hotel or not. COMMON SENSE!!! This guy's SOL and he has nobody to
blame but himself.

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It is very common among losers."

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Babe wrote: Everything in the casino is on camera.

Not always true. Exactly how many cameras are in place and what quality
they are is a management decision. Certain budget-minded casinos skimp
on the camera coverage. They have those smoke glass domes all over the
place (which makes you think they have a lot of cameras) but they don't
always have a working camera in each dome. Plus, when cameras break
down, it can take a few days (or years!) to get them fixed.

Most casinos with high limit areas have overkill in cameras there ---
but not so certain other places. Of course you don't know what place is
on camera so it's wise to conduct yourself in casinos as though you were
always on camera.

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I always wonder why these folks don't
call metro and make a police report.
That would certainly help get key
card records and video if any existed.
Just as likely, the guy didn't have the
cash to cover his marker.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:

Anyone care to contribute to a fund to buy Drain a new jacket?

I have a moderately used fleece (I think fleece is an appropriate
fabric for clothing from Native American casinos) Santa Ana Star
casino jacket with a few carne adovada stains that I'd be happy to
contribute.

I read this article and I'd like to add that my winnings disappeared
the first and only time I played at Wynn, too.

Drew

Anyone care to contribute to a fund to buy Drain a new jacket?

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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" wrote:

In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Sterling" <vpdeuces@...> wrote:

I have a moderately used fleece (I think fleece is an

appropriate fabric for clothing from Native American casinos) Santa
Ana Star casino jacket with a few carne adovada stains that I'd be
happy to contribute.

Wonderfully generous of you, Drew! I happen to know that Drain is
an aficionado of Mexican cuisine. Though he might prefer chili
releno drippings, carne adovado is a most acceptable adornment to
winter outerware.

However, I ask that you refrain from sending Drain your jacket at
this time. I'm still trying to collect funds to buy Drain a brand
NEW jacket. So far, I've collected $1.10. I won't name the
cheapskate who offered 10c, since that is 10c more than anyone else
on the board has ponied up. Come on, folks! Open your hearts and
wallets. It's COLD in LV in the wintertime.

I read this article and I'd like to add that my winnings

disappeared the first and only time I played at Wynn, too.
Drew

That's amazing, Drew. I had exactly the same experience. I wasn't
aware though, that I could file a complaint with WYNN management,
and possibly be reimbursed. To whom should I address my grievance?

If I'm fortunate enough to receive some of my losses back, I promise
to pledge another buck to Drain's jacket fund.

~Babe~

I had a Westward Ho Security Guard jacket that a
friend of mine gave me. I used to get some strange
looks from people when I would wear it out. Others
would just ask me for directions even though I wasn't

···

at Westward Ho. Westward Ho RIP :frowning: --- Drew Sterling <vpdeuces@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe"
<jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:
>
> Anyone care to contribute to a fund to buy Drain a
new jacket?

I have a moderately used fleece (I think fleece is
an appropriate
fabric for clothing from Native American casinos)
Santa Ana Star
casino jacket with a few carne adovada stains that
I'd be happy to
contribute.

I read this article and I'd like to add that my
winnings disappeared
the first and only time I played at Wynn, too.

Drew

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Hi Bill!

Are you offering to donate your jacket to the cause? Or was your
post just a commentary on the dead Westward Ho (not to mention other
dead Strip Hos)?

If this was a genuine offer, Drain would probably enjoy owning a
Security Guard jacket. It would be a definite asset when he makes
one of his infrequent forays to the Gold Spike.

I never thought of offering him one of my El Cortez jackets. I have
several from back in the golden days, when they offered a really
great inventory.

Thinking of the Westward Ho always reminds me of the morning, in the
70's, that I walked there from the Riviera, which was directly
across the street. VP was not available at that time, so I played
slots. The Ho had a 3 coin quarter slot with a buy-a-pay for a 4th
quarter. I evidently did not notice that a 4th coin was required for
the jackpot. The bonus for the 4th coin was $500. Of course, I
inserted 3 quarters, the 3 jackpot symbols lined up, and nothing
happened. As I was arguing with a slot person that the machine had
malfunctioned, and not paid me the jackpot, EH arrived. He pointed
out the error of ways immediately, and continued doing so, ever
after, whenever we passed by the HO. Now that the HO is no more,
driving down the Strip is much less stressful for me. {(O:
~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:
I had a Westward Ho Security Guard jacket that a friend of mine gave
me. I used to get some strangelooks from people when I would wear
it out. Others would just ask me for directions even though I wasn't
at Westward Ho. Westward Ho RIP :frowning: ===================================================== --- Drew Sterling <vpdeuces@...> wrote:
I have a moderately used fleece (I think fleece is an appropriate
casino jacket............

Babe,

I would donate it but unfortunately I have passed it
on to another gambler who told me that he passed it on
to another.

I have a similar story. When I was "under 21" I was
playing slots at the Silver Slipper and line up 3 red
sevens for a $500 jackpot. Well, that was a handpay.
The slot attendant came over and said, "Hey, you're
not 21 (she was right, I was 16)". "Well, I'll pay you
this time but then get the hell out of here".

So I took my money and rannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. :slight_smile:

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--- jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Bill!

Are you offering to donate your jacket to the cause?
Or was your
post just a commentary on the dead Westward Ho (not
to mention other
dead Strip Hos)?

If this was a genuine offer, Drain would probably
enjoy owning a
Security Guard jacket. It would be a definite asset
when he makes
one of his infrequent forays to the Gold Spike.

I never thought of offering him one of my El Cortez
jackets. I have
several from back in the golden days, when they
offered a really
great inventory.

Thinking of the Westward Ho always reminds me of the
morning, in the
70's, that I walked there from the Riviera, which
was directly
across the street. VP was not available at that
time, so I played
slots. The Ho had a 3 coin quarter slot with a
buy-a-pay for a 4th
quarter. I evidently did not notice that a 4th coin
was required for
the jackpot. The bonus for the 4th coin was $500. Of
course, I
inserted 3 quarters, the 3 jackpot symbols lined up,
and nothing
happened. As I was arguing with a slot person that
the machine had
malfunctioned, and not paid me the jackpot, EH
arrived. He pointed
out the error of ways immediately, and continued
doing so, ever
after, whenever we passed by the HO. Now that the HO
is no more,
driving down the Strip is much less stressful for
me. {(O:
~Babe~

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...>
wrote:
I had a Westward Ho Security Guard jacket that a
friend of mine gave
me. I used to get some strangelooks from people
when I would wear
it out. Others would just ask me for directions
even though I wasn't
at Westward Ho. Westward Ho RIP :frowning: > ===================================================== > --- Drew Sterling <vpdeuces@...> wrote:
I have a moderately used fleece (I think fleece is
an appropriate
casino jacket............

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jackessiebabe wrote:

However, I ask that you refrain from sending Drain your jacket at
this time. I'm still trying to collect funds to buy Drain a brand
NEW jacket. So far, I've collected $1.10. I won't name the
cheapskate who offered 10c, since that is 10c more than anyone else
on the board has ponied up.

NO ONE outcheapskates me. I bid 9¢!

I'M SHOCKED!!! You do know how to respond to a post.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:

I had a Westward Ho Security Guard jacket that a
friend of mine gave me. I used to get some strange
looks from people when I would wear it out. Others
would just ask me for directions even though I wasn't
at Westward Ho. Westward Ho RIP :frowning: > > > --- Drew Sterling <vpdeuces@...> wrote: