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French meals in Vegas

I had some friends visiting and were able to go to two top French
restaurants in Vegas over the weekend. First was Alize, top of Palms, which I consider
one of very top restaurants in city. Everyone we take there raves about it
and no one complains. Figure about $100 per person for food if you include
appetizers, salad, main course, and desert. More if you choose wine etc.
Less if you just go for main course and appetizer. The appetizers are really
fabulous here. Entrees are very good, especially things like duck and lamb,
which are often prepared 2 ways. Soups and salads are excellent. Souffle is
excellent too - requiring ordering at start of meal. Rest of deserts are only
so-so, weakest part of meal. The chef will also give you a small appetizer.
We used to get a palate cleansing sorbet in between courses, but didn't this
time, so perhaps it is gone??

The restaurant has an excellent wine menu and a great selection of all
sorts of alcohol (which is on display in cases around the room). You also get a
fantastic view of the city.

I advise reserving in advance, though often on weekdays it isn't very
crowded, especially early. Meals can be leisurely here - 2-3 hours, depending on
size of your party. You can ask the waiter to speed up if you need to spend
more time. By arriving early, you can watch the sun go down (actually you
can't see sunset since the West is obscured), but you get the change to night and
the nighttime lights.

View is a major part of the ambience. Service is excellent. Also, if you
visit a few times they may well remember you and your preferences.

You can use Palms comps, but cannot use comps to pay for tip. Except -
sometimes you can for large parties. This is an oddity of the Palms. I can use
comps to tip the Spa/Hairdresser, but not restaurants. But sometimes you can
tip for large parties via comp credit. All very odd!

You can also try asking a host for a discretionary comp. Sometimes I've
gotten one, sometimes they won't give you one if you already have enough comps
(they wouldn't give me any this time). The Palms is generally weird on its
comp policies (and everything else).

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Another great "splurge" French restaurant is the Eiffel Tower Restaurant.
Be sure to book a reservation in advance here - busier than Alize because of
prominent strip location. You can run into some weird Harrah's comp policies
here too. If you have a room at Paris/Bally's, you can charge restaurant to
your room, and then use your comp points to pay for it. If you are RFB and
run out of comps, a host can comp you only if you have that room and charge to
room. But you cannot get a host or total reward club to issue you a comp
since they don't own the restaurant. Oddity #2 - if you are 7 Stars you can
use this for your birthday meal (highly recommended). Host must be contacted
in advance and issue you (or take to restaurant) a "hard comp" for $400 -- and
you don't need to have a room.

Food is pricier than at Alize - with some of the entrees that Alize charges
about $35 for more like $48 here. Strangely - no French onion soup! Hey
guys - this is Paris?! Appetizer selection not as good as Alize. Due to higher
prices, we cut out 1 appetizer or salad to squeeze in $100 per person price.
Veggies all seemed to be ala carte, and waiter didn't advise us of extra
costs when he pushed us to order potatoes, etc. Service not nearly as good as
Alize.

The one thing that was better was the deserts - they were really great.
They have the usual souffles too (didn't try one).

View here is of the Bellagio fountain. As with Alize, try to reserve early
or ask for a window table. Sun sets in West, the view you are looking at, so
shades are partially drawn if you arrive in the daytime, until sun goes
down. At that point the shades are pulled up (thankfully). Eiffel Tower is also
open for lunch, which might be a cheaper alternative, but the Bellagio
Fountain show doesn't start til 3pm. Even with shades, the view is good, though
not as good overall as Alize view.

Overall I'd say Alize is better, but Eiffel Tower did have its good points.
It was nice to be able to go to both within a few days - a double splurge we
don't usually have a chance to do. Fortunately I had a lot of Palms points
and 7 Star birthday dinner and friends to take.

For holidays, Alize has a holiday menu, so if you are looking to go out on a
holiday to a splurge restaurant, it can be a nice choice.

Only thing missing from both restaurants - a great piano player with live
music.

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Although the service is great at Alize the service I had at the Eiffel Tower
was among the best I've ever experienced.

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Service not nearly as good as Alize.

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The experience you describe is exactly what I looked forward to and
expected when I tried Alize... instead, the food was average and the
service deplorable. Won't return.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, misscraps@... wrote:

I had some friends visiting and were able to go to two top French

restaurants in Vegas over the weekend. First was Alize, top of
Palms, which I consider one of very top restaurants in city.
Everyone we take there raves about it and no one complains.

misscraps wrote:

Another great "splurge" French restaurant is the Eiffel Tower
Restaurant.
Be sure to book a reservation in advance here - busier than Alize
because of prominent strip location ... View here is of the
Bellagio fountain. As with Alize, try to reserve early or ask for a
window table.

I'll supplement this with our dated experience with the restaurant
(1/3/00).

Bev and I enjoyed what truly was one of our most romantic dinners --
this spans a 29 year acquaintance (we're in our mid-40's, in case that
suggests we're post retirement ;).

I understand that they've restored the chef's tasting menus. While
pricey, we've paid more and come away with less elsewhere. If they
still have the 7-course degustation menu with a matched wine flite, I
expect that you'd be in for the same exceptional treat that we enjoyed.

As misscraps suggested, reserve early. We dined on a Monday and were
fortunate to secure a reservation that afternoon for 9p. The
restaurant was filled to capacity.

While I consider tactics such as a check-in $20 room upgrade "trick"
too obnoxious to indulge in, this was the last night of a 7-night trip
that yielded a record-breaking (for us) profit. When the "doorman" at
the base of the escalator (I don't know what else to call him) was
waving, with a gesture that was hardly discrete, a fistful of bucks I
took a shot at securing a window table a couple of hours before our
reservation by palming him a twenty while explaining it was a special
night for us.

Accepted with scant acknowledgement, I counted on it going down the
tubes. However, when we arrived for our reservation and exited the
elevator, you'd have thought we'd tipped a hundred.

We were met by the manager and escorted to the bar. We marveled as we
splurged on a glass of champagne at the bar and enjoyed the piano.
However, after a 20-min wait during which we observed a handful of
window-side tables change over, we feared that we were destined for a
table by the service entrance (and checked with the maitre d' for
assurance we hadn't been overlooked).

Our eyes widened to saucers as we were ultimately shown past table
after table to find ourselves seated just one table off the corner
nearest to the Bellagio fountains. Service from thereon was
impeccable as we basked in the view. We chuckled when I turned and
raised a single finger to ask for more bread and our basket was
replenished within a minute.

The 2-hr+ dining experience was, in short, rapturous. And when I
sought out the manager before leaving to express our deep gratitude,
he extended his card, inviting us to drop his name should we return.

YMMV, but consider the up front tip.

- Harry

I'm not sure I would consider a $20 toke/bribe obnoxious, but would
otherwise agree with Harry and Misscraps. Absolutely stunning view at
Alize, very attractive room, attentive service and excellent in the grub (Le
grub?) department as well. My one complaint was that I was able to hear the
faint thump thump thump of the sound system from the hipster house of
worship downstairs.

Chandler