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Free Play Cash

Anyone have any thoughts on using some of these free play cash coupons
if you just want to use up the cash and get in and out quickly,
hopefully making some money off of the free play? The amounts often
vary depending on your prior level of play, but for discussion purposes
let's use $5 to $100. Would you still just play it in the best vp
machine available? Would it be time to "take a shot?" Play a higher
denomination? Remember in this scenario, you're not staying for a
"session." Just using your free play and get out. Curious as to what
you would do.
Scot

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Scot Krause wrote:

Anyone have any thoughts on using some of these free play cash coupons
if you just want to use up the cash and get in and out quickly,
hopefully making some money off of the free play? The amounts often
vary depending on your prior level of play, but for discussion purposes
let's use $5 to $100. Would you still just play it in the best vp
machine available? Would it be time to "take a shot?" Play a higher
denomination? Remember in this scenario, you're not staying for a
"session." Just using your free play and get out. Curious as to what
you would do.

I use mine in VP machines I'm familiar with, in hope of maximizing my
play and getting something big out of my play. I recently got 4 deuces
on a nickel machine (I play for fun) using a $10 free play card at
Hard Rock.

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Anyone have any thoughts on using some of these free play cash coupons
if you just want to use up the cash and get in and out quickly,
hopefully making some money off of the free play? The amounts often
vary depending on your prior level of play, but for discussion purposes
let's use $5 to $100. Would you still just play it in the best vp
machine available? Would it be time to "take a shot?" Play a higher
denomination? Remember in this scenario, you're not staying for a
"session." Just using your free play and get out. Curious as to what
you would do.

  Each of us plays exactly one session of VP. It just happens
to be the case that most of us do things like eat and sleep between
some hands. So, the fact that the funds used for some hands come from a
coupon is totally irrelevant. This is pretty much the same as the 'their
money' thread. That coupon is already 'your' money. Viewing it as
pure profit is flawed, since it is part of the overall ER you had
when you played enough to get it. Playing the best game is the correct
choice.

  That coupon certainly won't boost your bankroll enough to justify
stepping up in denomination. If you do find a situation where 'taking
a shot' really does make sense, the circumstances will not be tied to a
freeplay. Of course, some promotions are very strong when used at a
higher denomination. The most common of these are the 7777 pays double
kind found in the LVA coupon book. Now 'taking a shot' can be a good
idea, but only if a bad result won't decimate your bankroll.

  QZ

With free play coupons, I use it for megabuck pulls. I
usually use them for my "play-as-usual" favorite +
expectation VP games but at this time I have to
seasonally adjust it for megabuck play, which is
hovering at about 20 million big tokens. If
successful, I would have increased my bankroll for
almost kind of denomination VP play. Wishful thinking
alright :-)!

Elito

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--- Pat O'Connell <nvcaver@lvcm.com> wrote:

Scot Krause wrote:
>
> Anyone have any thoughts on using some of these
free play cash coupons
> if you just want to use up the cash and get in and
out quickly,
> hopefully making some money off of the free play?
The amounts often
> vary depending on your prior level of play, but
for discussion purposes
> let's use $5 to $100. Would you still just play
it in the best vp
> machine available? Would it be time to "take a
shot?" Play a higher
> denomination? Remember in this scenario, you're
not staying for a
> "session." Just using your free play and get out.
Curious as to what
> you would do.

I use mine in VP machines I'm familiar with, in hope
of maximizing my
play and getting something big out of my play. I
recently got 4 deuces
on a nickel machine (I play for fun) using a $10
free play card at
Hard Rock.

--
Pat O'Connell
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but
footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

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--- In vpFREE@y..., "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@w...> wrote:

Anyone have any thoughts on using some of these free play cash

coupons

if you just want to use up the cash and get in and out quickly,
hopefully making some money off of the free play?

Since, in most cases, the "play through" coupons are not on the same
day as multiple point coupons, I usually go during lunch hour...play
the best machines available at $.25 (FPDW of FPDB)...and cash out
once the free play money is used up.

Don the Dentist

Assuming that there aren't some casino restrictions
involved or an attempt to disguise your play why would
there be a reason to play a free play coupon
differently than your own your normal play?

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Assuming that there aren't some casino restrictions
involved or an attempt to disguise your play why would
there be a reason to play a free play coupon
differently than your own your normal play?

I tried to be clear in my original hypothetical scenario that the free
play was not intended as a long term, life long, vp session as Quadzilla
also tried to interpret it. For the sake of discussion, let's just say
it's a one time, or last time play. You leave for airport in 10 minutes.
You don't know if you will ever be back, ever play another hand of vp,
ever set foot in another casino. You just want to play your free play
coupon. Get in, play it, get out, try to make a little money (or a lot
of money) from it at the same time. Let's make it $50. Now, would you
still play your regular vp game? Take it up a notch? Try it on $1
Megabucks as someone suggested?

It's just an exercise to see what people might do with it. Not a
statement about the lifetime ev of your play.
Scot

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-----Original Message-----
From: mgwiz22 [mailto:mgwi…@…com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:36 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Free Play Cash

Scot Krause wrote:

I tried to be clear in my original hypothetical scenario that the
free play was not intended as a long term, life long, vp session as
Quadzilla also tried to interpret it. For the sake of discussion,
let's just say it's a one time, or last time play. ... It's just an
exercise to see what people might do with it. Not a statement about
the lifetime ev of your play.

OK, Scot, we get what you're looking for. But I might very well pose
a few hypotheticals along the same vein:

You're about to pop your last $20 into a machine before ending your
semi-annual LV trip. Do you play your trusty $.25 FPDW or switch to a
play that has the potential to make up for ALL your past losses with
one hit? If you play that FPDW, do you play standard strategy or
stretch for the royal on some holds?

Maybe you're not leaving to fly cross country but just to take a long
needed meal or bathroom break. Are you inclined to undertake a
go-for-broke play to try and end your session on a positive note?

Of course, the difference between these scenarios and yours is that
you don't have ownership in the free play dollars until they are
played off. However, if someone has the general goal of maximizing
the value of the free play then they'll play it off as they would
their own cash.

On the other hand, it they have other goals in mind, then they'll do
with it what they find most satisfying.

- Harry

I don't consider "free play" any different from your
money (excluding any restrictions), except for the
fact that it has to be run through the machines. I
would play whatever machine I would normally play at
the giving casino.
  I have a small amount of free play coming to me at
Bellagio. I will play this at a 9-6 JB in all
probability. If the mood strikes me sure I would put
it into megabucks but not just because its free play.
  I find the concept of taking a shot with free play
similar to the just concluded discussion about "their
money".
  I don't intend to be judgemental I just think that
the free play should be used in whatever way an
individual feels comfortable. A lot of people felt
that the loss return program at Harrahs and the
Stratosphere was an opportunity to take a shot and I
can understand that point of view in a guaranteed loss
return program. I think free play is a completely
different situation.

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