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FPVP Players In Minority---support your local 99+% machine!

I thought DDB was 9-5 in that bank. I had 2967 in the slot tournament which
was 4th in my round. Worthless of course.

[Original Message]
From: jaydavidson118 <jaydavidson118@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 4/18/2005 9:03:55 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: FPVP Players In Minority---support your local 99+%

machine!

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You must have missed me, I was pounding away on bonus deluxe
yesterday for a fair chunk of time, too bad it wasn't a point
multiplier day. Several of the other games are close to 99%, like
9/7/5 db and 9/6 ddb. The person next to me was dealt four 4's on ddb
for a nice $500+ hit.

Did you play in the slot tournament? I got screwed over by the odd
rules, a fnatastic 5800 score put me in the final round, only to come
up short in the money round...oh well always next time!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:
> You may notice that most VP period at E. Chicago is less than full.
Just
> maybe some people have wised up with almost 300 full pay games
about 1-1/4
> miles away. What amazes me was looking at the eight 1c 100 plays
yesterday
> at the Majestic Star. As usual all eight were in use. Not one of
them was
> playing 9-6 BP Dlx. Almost all of them were on sub 98% versions of
DDB, TDB
> or DB2s.
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: jaydavidson118 <jaydavidson118@y...>
> > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 4/18/2005 1:15:30 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: FPVP Players In Minority---support your
local 99+%
> machine!
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no doubt that vpFree members have a optimistic view of
the
> > percentage of advantage or informed vp players. My favorite
anecdotal
> > piece of evidence is at Harrah's East Chicago, which actually has
10
> > decent machines: 9/6 JOB, NSUD and 99.8% triple bonus and has
this
> > bank of machines light with a big flashing sign "Over 99%
payback"
> > right next to these machines are the same games with typical
Harrah's
> > paytables some with a very small progressive...which machines are
> > heavily played...the crummy paytable machines the 99+% are rarely
> > full...I guess people demand bad pay schedules.
> >
> > One more example: One machine at this same harrah's has 8/5 JOB
and
> > 8/5 bonus poker...I have seen people playing 8/5JOB over 8/5
bonus
> > WOW!
> >
> > I suspect it is a very up-hill battle to educate the general vp
> > population. note: even when I pointed out the better pay-
schedules of
> > same games people will often reply...this machine is lucky for me!
> >
> > The key is to promote demand for 99+% machines where casinos make
> > money but players get a fair deal, particularly when comps are
> > included...100+% is just an abberation with limited long term
> > viability
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Brian Lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are there that few of us?
> > >
> > >
> > > There are, which is why entities such as Harrah's thrive
despite an
> > > inventory of relatively poor vp paytables.
> > >
> > > It can be rationally arugued that the best thing that can
happen is
> > > for casino players to gain a better grasp of vp paytables and
how
> > play
> > > of stronger machines can extend their play. The stronger the
> > demand,
> > > the greater supply is likely to be.
> > >
> > > We just don't want those new players to play
too "intelligently" :wink:
> > >
> > > - Harry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm

Yahoo! Groups Links

Looks like the gang was all there. My machine was being a slacker so my
score sucked. I got lucky and drew to the wild card round, but got yet
another dog of a score. Whaddaya gonna do.

Chandler

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com]On Behalf Of
Howard Stern
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:44 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: FPVP Players In Minority—support your local
99+% machine!

I thought DDB was 9-5 in that bank. I had 2967 in the slot tournament which
was 4th in my round. Worthless of course.