The Four Queens has upgraded some of the paytables at the bars. 50c and $1 DB is now 10/7 100.17% and 50c and $1 DDB is now 10/6/40 99.96%. At first I thought this was a mistake and just on one or two machines but it's at all three bars on all machines that I checked. I did not see any changes to the other games or denominations at the bars.
Four Queens Upgrades Bartop Paytables
Is it $8 a point or $16 a point like the other 10/7s?
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On 4/21/2017 2:32 PM, ‘H. F.’
[vpFREE] wrote:
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The Four Queens has upgraded some of the paytables at thebars. 50c and $1 DB is now 10/7 100.17% and 50c and $1 DDB
is now 10/6/40 99.96%. At first I thought this was a
mistake and just on one or two machines but it’s at all
three bars on all machines that I checked. I did not see
any changes to the other games or denominations at the
bars.
“Is it $8 a point or $16 a point like the other 10/7s?”
Almost certainly 16 per point, don’t you think?
VPFREE2 hasn’t been updated, but presumably will be soon.
Dunno, all the other bar games are $8.
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On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, aprvp78…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
“Is it $8 a point or $16 a point like the other 10/7s?”
Almost certainly 16 per point, don’t you think?
The 10/7 DB games at all three bars are $8 coin-in = 1 point.
Lets hope they last.
Don the Dentist
Wow, can’t imagine that lasts longer than a week.
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On 4/23/2017 6:54 AM,
[vpFREE] wrote:
The 10/7 DB games at all three bars are $8 coin-in = 1point.
Lets hope they last.
Don the Dentist
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“The 10/7 DB games at all three bars are $8 coin-in = 1 point.”
I can only picture two bars: one near the restrooms and one next to the discount show tickets booth. Where’s the third? Are there vp machines upstairs in the “cigar bar”?
Yes.
Regards
A.P.
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From: "aprvp78748@yahoo.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Four Queens Upgrades Bartop Paytables
"The 10/7 DB games at all three bars are $8 coin-in = 1 point."
I can only picture two bars: one near the restrooms and one next to the discount show tickets booth. Where's the third? Are there vp machines upstairs in the "cigar bar"?
I just checked 3 machines that had been upgraded and they’re 9/6.
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On Sunday, April 23, 2017, Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Yes.
Regards
A.P.
From: “aprvp78…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: vpF…@…com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Four Queens Upgrades Bartop Paytables
“The 10/7 DB games at all three bars are $8 coin-in = 1 point.”
I can only picture two bars: one near the restrooms and one next to the discount show tickets booth. Where’s the third? Are there vp machines upstairs in the “cigar bar”?
“I just checked 3 machines that had been upgraded and they’re 9/6.”
9/6? The bar DB games were 9/7 before the upgrade. So, they weren’t changed back to what they’d been. They were downgraded!
Yes, 9/6/5. I checked maybe 10 machines.
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On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:57 PM, aprvp78…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
“I just checked 3 machines that had been upgraded and they’re 9/6.”
9/6? The bar DB games were 9/7 before the upgrade. So, they weren’t changed back to what they’d been. They were downgraded!
I am a bit confused at these posts been to the 4queens bartop many times over the past couple weeks and just a few minutes ago and most have 10/6 DDB just played it won 50 bucks as well as 10/7 DB.
I hope the confusion is you are only checking the .25 level because once you change to .50 and above they are there 100% positive just played them as were others.
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On May 2, 2017, at 6:16 AM, Tom Robertson 007…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Yes, 9/6/5. I checked maybe 10 machines.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:57 PM,
aprvp78…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:“I just checked 3 machines that had been upgraded and they’re 9/6.”
9/6? The bar DB games were 9/7 before the upgrade. So, they weren’t changed back to what they’d been. They were downgraded!
Most likely, what you are witnessing, is a feeble attempt to keep this play alive by lying about it being changed back to 9/6. I have no idea if the operatives at the 4 Queens subscribe to vpFREE. But even if they don’t, by publishing a play like this here to the 11,500 members of this list. Just the increased traffic alone at that bar will certain get their attention. As a non-local and more of a recreational player who doesn’t have the time to scout opportunities like a local does, I would be all over this when I next travel in if it still remains.
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From my perspective, I am glad such plays are outed, even if they don’t last as long. Just don’t out the plays in my local market please. 
It’d be great if people could get some common sense and quit outing plays.
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On May 4, 2017, at 7:14 AM, st…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Most likely, what you are witnessing, is a feeble attempt to keep this play alive by lying about it being changed back to 9/6. I have no idea if the operatives at the 4 Queens subscribe to vpFREE. But even if they don’t, by publishing a play like this here to the 11,500 members of this list. Just the increased traffic alone at that bar will certain get their attention. As a non-local and more of a recreational player who doesn’t have the time to scout opportunities like a local does, I would be all over this when I next travel in if it still remains.
From my perspective, I am glad such plays are outed, even if they don’t last as long. Just don’t out the plays in my local market please.
Will continue and never stop. This board has helped me for years and I choose to share information. Plus the concept of outing plays is pretty funny the casino wants the advertising that is why they offer it at .50 and above they want players.
This is not new for 4Queens they have always offered 10/7 machines for .25 up to a dollar.
I suggest people who just leech and are not willing to share should be outed from the forum.
Just my opinion
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On May 4, 2017, at 10:14 AM, shagatola shagatola
shagat…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
It’d be great if people could get some common sense and quit outing plays.
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On May 4, 2017, at 7:14 AM, st…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Most likely, what you are witnessing, is a feeble attempt to keep this play alive by lying about it being changed back to 9/6. I have no idea if the operatives at the 4 Queens subscribe to vpFREE. But even if they don’t, by publishing a play like this
here to the 11,500 members of this list. Just the increased traffic alone at that bar will certain get their attention. As a non-local and more of a recreational player who doesn’t have the time to scout opportunities like a local does, I would be all over
this when I next travel in if it still remains.From my perspective, I am glad such plays are outed, even if they don’t last as long. Just don’t out the plays in my local market please.
I was told by a slot manager years ago that in real numbers the casinos FPDW paid back 99.3% and 10/7 paid 99.0%. Barring misguided promotions/slot clubs these machines MAKE money. Now obviously they are not going to put it in 100 play or they will get banged but up to $1 10/7 will still make them money single play since virtually no one plays that perfectly and the few who come close have better things to do with their time than a $6 an hour edge on a game that is miserable to play.