Anyone know how they work? Use once win or lose? Use 'til you lose?
Thanks.
Four Queens' "non-negotiable" chips
Use once win or lose. If a push in BJ, they are still in play for the next hand. Theoretical value of just under 50%, at least in BJ.
Don the Dentist
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Anyone know how they work? Use once win or lose? Use 'til you lose?
Thanks.
DDS wrote: Use once win or lose. If a push in BJ, they are
still in play for the next hand. Theoretical value of just under 50%, at
least in BJ.
That's the low variance --- low EV way to use the chips. Far better EV wise (with a higher variance) is to use them straight up on single numbers at roulette. Normally they pay you 35-to-1 and here they pay you only 35-for-1 where the true odds are 38-for-1. So the chips are worth 35/38 --- which is about 92%. This is a FAR higher EV than wasting them on a 48% BJ bet.
Bob
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Not sure, but they may be limited to even-money bets only. "DTD" may know that for a fact - and answered accordingly.
DDS wrote: Use once win or lose. If a push in BJ, they are
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still in play for the next hand. Theoretical value of just under 50%, at
least in BJ.That's the low variance --- low EV way to use the chips. Far better EV wise (with a higher variance) is to use them straight up on single numbers at roulette. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
They would not let me use chips for anything but even bets on roulette. It was pretty lame.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:
DDS wrote: Use once win or lose. If a push in BJ, they are
still in play for the next hand. Theoretical value of just under 50%, at
least in BJ.That's the low variance --- low EV way to use the chips. Far better EV wise (with a higher variance) is to use them straight up on single numbers at roulette. Normally they pay you 35-to-1 and here they pay you only 35-for-1 where the true odds are 38-for-1. So the chips are worth 35/38 --- which is about 92%. This is a FAR higher EV than wasting them on a 48% BJ bet.
Bob
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Bob, I have never been able to use a match play on a number at roulette. All the match plays I have ever used will state that they could only be used at roulette on even money bets.
Are the 4 Queens match plays different in that regard? That's a huge difference in EV, if they will let you use your match plays on a number.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:
DDS wrote: Use once win or lose. If a push in BJ, they are
still in play for the next hand. Theoretical value of just under 50%, at
least in BJ.That's the low variance --- low EV way to use the chips. Far better EV wise (with a higher variance) is to use them straight up on single numbers at roulette. Normally they pay you 35-to-1 and here they pay you only 35-for-1 where the true odds are 38-for-1. So the chips are worth 35/38 --- which is about 92%. This is a FAR higher EV than wasting them on a 48% BJ bet.
Bob
If they did, then everyone would figure out to play one chip on each number, the zero and double zero...
Don the Dentist
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They would not let me use chips for anything but even bets on roulette. It was pretty lame.