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For frequent VP players - session limit?

Last Sunday, I had one of those poor VP sessions. Ten machines at $20
per machine, with no quads and obviously, no wins. I can't recall my
last session with no quads.

So I gave up and walked away for another day (which will be tonight).
But I got to thinking about what other players do. Specifically for
max coin quarter players, would anyone like to disclose their session
bankroll? And how about sticking with one machine until (or if) it
pays? My feeling is if a machine takes $20, it's time to move, but
maybe I am missing something.

Hey, Charles, I agree with moving on to a different machine.

     Many, many times, I have lost $20 in one machine (sometimes, $40) and
then moved to the machine next to it and done very well. In fact, I think
that I have won more money this way. I will bet that I am not alone about
moving machines when they're not paying off.

     Further, if I play $20/each in several VP machines and I am on a losing
streak (no quads, etc.), I will put $20 in a regular slot machine and play
for awhile. Then, I go back to VP.

     Obviously, the odds are the same no matter which actual machine I play
(assuming pay shedules are the same). But, moving from machine to machine
and taking 'breaks' from VP seem to work for me.

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On 11/22/05, Charles <fromthevault@yahoo.com> wrote:

Last Sunday, I had one of those poor VP sessions. Ten machines at $20
per machine, with no quads and obviously, no wins. I can't recall my
last session with no quads.

So I gave up and walked away for another day (which will be tonight).
But I got to thinking about what other players do. Specifically for
max coin quarter players, would anyone like to disclose their session
bankroll? And how about sticking with one machine until (or if) it
pays? My feeling is if a machine takes $20, it's time to move, but
maybe I am missing something.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It is purely a personal decision whether to move on or to stay, since
it makes no difference in venues like LV, as long aa the paytables are
the same. A vp machine has no idea what it is doing, in terms of what
it is paying out.

But, we have been through this before, a million times.

.....bl

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <fromthevault@y...> wrote:

how about sticking with one machine until (or if) it
pays? My feeling is if a machine takes $20, it's time to move, but
maybe I am missing something.

I think almost everyone on this forum would agree that the odds
don't change regardless of whether you change machines every X
dollars or sit there all day (assuming game and pay tables were the
same).

However, I am sure there is a physiological effect in play here.
Some people might "feel" better about leaving a "losing" machine,
even though they know deep down that there is no mathematical
benefit to do this. Personally, I like to put $400 into a machine
(playing quarters) so that I don't have to keep feeding money into
the machine. I find the "act" of feeding money into the machine to
emphasize the fact that I am losing. Plus by having lots of money
in the machine I don't have to keep an eye on credits and can just
focus on the cards and get into a nice rhythm (I love it when I get
into the zen state where I can play very fast with total focus.
Doesn't happen often enough!).

Before I knew anything about VP I used to use a Martingale style of
starting with 1 coin and increasing by a coin everytime I lost. Of
course, I abandoned this quickly once I discovered it was costing me
over 1% of return (god bless the internet!).

Small points, but I guess this defines my VP style. Anyone else
have any other methods?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@y...>
wrote:

It is purely a personal decision whether to move on or to stay,

since

it makes no difference in venues like LV, as long aa the paytables

are

the same. A vp machine has no idea what it is doing, in terms of

what

it is paying out.

But, we have been through this before, a million times.

.....bl

>
> how about sticking with one machine until (or if) it
> pays? My feeling is if a machine takes $20, it's time to move,

but

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <fromthevault@y...> wrote:
> maybe I am missing something.
>

From: "Charles" <fromthevault@yahoo.com>

But I got to thinking about what other players do. Specifically for

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max coin quarter players, would anyone like to disclose their session
bankroll? And how about sticking with one machine until (or if) it
pays? My feeling is if a machine takes $20, it's time to move, but
maybe I am missing something.

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I don't live there so my session bankroll is what I brought for the trip. I play until I feel like quitting, for whatever reason. I put lots of money into a "cold" machine - you never know when that machine will get "hot"...........(-;

If the beers are coming and I feel good I am there for several hours. If I were a local this approach might be a lot different!

SK

$20 for one machine? I play all sorts of denoms and sometimes I have
done well on one $20 bill - but for me $80 in one machine (playing
quarters) is my normal max. For dollars I tend to spend about $400 in
one machine before I think about taking a break for awhile.

>From: "Charles" <fromthevault@y...>
But I got to thinking about what other players do. Specifically for
>max coin quarter players, would anyone like to disclose their

session

>bankroll? And how about sticking with one machine until (or if) it
>pays? My feeling is if a machine takes $20, it's time to move, but
>maybe I am missing something.
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I don't live there so my session bankroll is what I brought for the

trip. I

play until I feel like quitting, for whatever reason. I put lots

of money

into a "cold" machine - you never know when that machine will get
"hot"...........(-;

If the beers are coming and I feel good I am there for several

hours. If I

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "golden bearpa" <stevenb34@h...> wrote:

were a local this approach might be a lot different!

SK