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For 10/7 DB - when to hold only the Ace?

#1

Richard Rynearson wrote:

Is there a simple explanation regarding when to hold only the Ace when
you are dealt an A+High Card combination? I have a VP trainer and I
seem to never get this right - sometimes you hold both cards and some
times you hold only the Ace (according to the trainer). What am I
missing?

Assuming you have exactly one face card, with a different suit than your ace:

0) If you have two cards the same suit as the ace, or the same suit as your
   face card, hold the 3-card flush.

   (Technically this isn't what you asked about, but it's easy to get
   caught up in the do-I-hold-ace-face and miss the three-flush, a much
   bigger error than missing an ace-face hold.)

1) If you have a ten of a different suit than the ace, hold just the ace

2) If you have no cards of the same suit as the ace, hold just the ace

3) If you have no cards that are 2, 3, 4, or 5, hold just the ace

4) Otherwise, hold the ace and face.

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Randy Hudson

#2

Randy wrote: Assuming you have exactly one face card, with a different
suit than your ace:

0) If you have two cards the same suit as the ace, or the same suit as
your
   face card, hold the 3-card flush.

   (Technically this isn't what you asked about, but it's easy to get
   caught up in the do-I-hold-ace-face and miss the three-flush, a much
   bigger error than missing an ace-face hold.)

1) If you have a ten of a different suit than the ace, hold just the ace

2) If you have no cards of the same suit as the ace, hold just the ace

3) If you have no cards that are 2, 3, 4, or 5, hold just the ace

4) Otherwise, hold the ace and face.

Close, but a few clarifications are relevant.

In point 0), equally relevant, however, are inside straights with
one-high, such as AK234 or AJ987 or AQT98. As Randy noted this isn't
what you asked about, but these hands are important to the discussion
and rule 4) doesn't work unless you remember about the inside straights.

In point 1), if the ten is unsuited with BOTH the ace and the other high
card, hold the ace. If it is suited with the other high card, you may or
may not hold the ace by itself. That is, if the other high card is a
queen, you hold 'QT'; if it's a jack you hold 'JT'; if it's a king you
hold the ace by itself. Holding these combinations assumes, of course,
that there are no FL3 1h or ST4 1h1i in the hand.

Bob Dancer

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#3

Richard Rynearson wrote:

1) If you have a ten of a different suit than the ace, hold just the

ace

Funny that this topic made the board as I meant to post as experience
closely related. I was playing 25c FPDB with my parents last weekend,
and it was their first time playing the game so the basic strategy was
enough for them to handle. I helped them with the advanced plays when I
looked over and noticed the opportunities.
Anyway, my mom had 'A7'KT4, and I noticed she held the A and K, so I
stopped her and told her to hold just the A, not bothering to explain
why. She held the ace and drew, and surely enough she got the other
three aces, with the 4th one coming on the last card. First time I had
ever really seen that penalty card situation pay off! Go mom!

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#4

Randy wrote: Assuming you have exactly one face card, with a

different suit than your ace: [Omitted]
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Bob Dancer wrote: Close, but a few clarifications are relevant.

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REPLY: "He whose name must not be spoken" (unless you want to start a
lengthy thread) sells a reasonably priced "Winner's Guide to 10-7
Double Bonus." It explains this and all other 10-7 DB penalty-card
situations. I'm not the brightest bulb on my family tree, but I rote-
memorized all of the book's decision flowcharts while swimming laps.
Once you know the fine print, you can recognize and handle most of the
close cases in the manner that Randy summarized.

The GMan

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