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Fiesta - Stations separation

#1

Even though they aren't going to combine their slots clubs as they had been talking about doing, can you still use your points from one to get comps at the other? If so, I assume you can't simply swipe your card but you have to go to the slot club - or a kiosk - to get a comp? Is it equal dollar for dollar no matter which place you are using them?

Has there been any talk about not being able to do this transfer in the future?

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#2

had been talking about doing, can you still use your points from one to
get comps at the other?

About a month or two ago I was told you can no longer use Fiesta
poinbts to get tobacco comps at Stations anymore...

Don the Dentist

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

Even though they aren't going to combine their slots clubs as they

#3

On the other hand, I just used my Fiesta points at Red Rock's spa and it was acceptable. The Rewards' people said that eventually the points from Fiesta -->Station and vice versa will be completely separate. No definite date for the transition has been mentioned. Caution: Station entities seem to be prone to error when it comes to cross-swapping points. It was significant waste of time to make corrections via the various personnel at GVRC, Texas, Fiesta for instance. They are either not careful enough or not well-versed with the proper procedure to be followed in using the swap machines. I nearly lost about two million points due to their ineptitude.
   
  Phyto
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dds2124 <dds6@cox.net> wrote:
  --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" wrote:

Even though they aren't going to combine their slots clubs as they

had been talking about doing, can you still use your points from one to
get comps at the other?

About a month or two ago I was told you can no longer use Fiesta
poinbts to get tobacco comps at Stations anymore...

Don the Dentist
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#4

Word has it from a trusted Stations employee that this
separation is the first step toward the sale of the
Fiestas.

Adios Fiestas!!!

Bill
Palms Moderator

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--- Jean Scott <queenofcomps@cox.net> wrote:

Even though they aren't going to combine their slots
clubs as they had been talking about doing, can you
still use your points from one to get comps at the
other? If so, I assume you can't simply swipe your
card but you have to go to the slot club - or a
kiosk - to get a comp? Is it equal dollar for
dollar no matter which place you are using them?

Has there been any talk about not being able to do
this transfer in the future?
________________
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http://queenofcomps.com/

New blog taking the place of
Frugal Fridays. Go to
http://lasvegasadvisor.com/
and click on "Frugal Vegas."

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#5

I can remember when we wore black armbands when Reserve was sold to Stations! Maybe it won't be such a bad thing.....
Cheers!
Bonnie

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Wild Bill
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Fiesta - Stations separation

  Word has it from a trusted Stations employee that this
  separation is the first step toward the sale of the
  Fiestas.

  Adios Fiestas!!!

  Bill
  Palms Moderator
  --- Jean Scott <queenofcomps@cox.net> wrote:

  > Even though they aren't going to combine their slots
  > clubs as they had been talking about doing, can you
  > still use your points from one to get comps at the
  > other? If so, I assume you can't simply swipe your
  > card but you have to go to the slot club - or a
  > kiosk - to get a comp? Is it equal dollar for
  > dollar no matter which place you are using them?
  >
  > Has there been any talk about not being able to do
  > this transfer in the future?
  > ________________
  > Jean $¢ott
  > http://queenofcomps.com/
  >
  > New blog taking the place of
  > Frugal Fridays. Go to
  > http://lasvegasadvisor.com/
  > and click on "Frugal Vegas."
  >
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  > removed]
  >
  >

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#6

This can't be a bad thing. After what those greedy crapsacks at
Stations have done to Vegas VP, having a couple of casinos no longer
in their clutches HAS to be an improvement, even if the purchaser is
Osama Bin Laden.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:

Word has it from a trusted Stations employee that this
separation is the first step toward the sale of the
Fiestas.

#7

What a shocker that would be. Imagine that you are Fertitta Capital
Partners a.k.a. FCP. You sign a BIG note to take STN private. You do
it. Then the noteholders freak out after the whole system seizes up,
because they cannot flip some of the note.

That would be a darn shame. Here's a challenge to all readers that
even have a MAJOR brokerage account. Call your broker tomorrow
(2/25/08) and inquire about the debt from the HET or STN buyouts.

My guess is no one will report back. Regardless, any accounting
minor can deduce the company is now over-burdened with debt, so
assets have to be sold. Perhaps they (FCP) will even sell their 1/2
interest in GVR.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:

Word has it from a trusted Stations employee that this
separation is the first step toward the sale of the
Fiestas.

Adios Fiestas!!!

Bill
Palms Moderator
--- Jean Scott <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

> Even though they aren't going to combine their slots
> clubs as they had been talking about doing, can you
> still use your points from one to get comps at the
> other? If so, I assume you can't simply swipe your
> card but you have to go to the slot club - or a
> kiosk - to get a comp? Is it equal dollar for
> dollar no matter which place you are using them?
>
> Has there been any talk about not being able to do
> this transfer in the future?
> ________________
> Jean $¢ott
> http://queenofcomps.com/
>
> New blog taking the place of
> Frugal Fridays. Go to
> http://lasvegasadvisor.com/
> and click on "Frugal Vegas."
>

#8

Tral.... Wrote: This can't be a bad thing. After what those greedy
crapsacks at
Stations have done to Vegas VP, having a couple of casinos no longer
in their clutches HAS to be an improvement, even if the purchaser is
Osama Bin Laden.

This is certainly not true. Even though you don't like the fact that the
slot club has tightened recently, Fiesta does offer a FPDW and a few
other games that are in excess of 100%. Well over 95% of the casinos in
the country offer no games that loose.

It's not uncommon to always want more, but for low stakes players,
Fiesta still offers strong games. Just imagine it's taken over by the
Westin Casurina folks. When you compare these two casinos, you'll find
that the current Fiesta offering isn't so awful. There are slot floors
in town where the best game is 8/5 Bonus. FPDW, even with no slot club
at all, is a vast improvement over that.

Bob Dancer

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#9

This is certainly not true. Even though you don't like the fact

that the

slot club has tightened recently, Fiesta does offer a FPDW and a

few

other games that are in excess of 100%. Well over 95% of the

casinos in

the country offer no games that loose.

It's not uncommon to always want more, but for low stakes players,
Fiesta still offers strong games. Just imagine it's taken over by

the

Westin Casurina folks. When you compare these two casinos, you'll

find

that the current Fiesta offering isn't so awful. There are slot

floors

in town where the best game is 8/5 Bonus. FPDW, even with no slot

club

at all, is a vast improvement over that.

Good god, Bob buddy. No one, myself included, ever said that the
Fiestas aren't good BY COMPARISON WITH WHAT'S LEFT. A dozen or
so "Optimums" with $40 billion coin-in to earn a comped buffet IS
better than most of what's out there now.

It also is horribly pathetic compared to what Fiesta/Reserve USED to
be like before Stations got their hands on those properties.

I don't really CARE what the VP is like in the rest of the country.
I don't think it's RELEVANT what might happen if Westin Causarina
ran the joint. All I know is, Fiesta (Rancho) and the Reserve used
to have so many terrific plays, it was hard to choose between them.
Comps used to be over 0.5%. There were point multipliers. Bounceback
cash. Great promos. A skilled quarter player could do very well.

Now, the VP is 99% crap, and the slot club is a joke. In fact, the
whole mess is far worse than it was even a couple of years ago. So
what if there's an occasional $500 NSUD play that can earn a theo of
+$30/hour if you risk $35,000,000 coin-in? So what if someone can
grind out $7/hr + no comps on .25 FPDW--assuming you can elbow aside
one of the chainsmoking locals who are there twelve hours a day?

I DON'T want "MORE", Bob...I just want back SOME of what there USED
to be. I'm tired of seeing LESS and LESS. The stinkin' casinos made
beaucoup bucks offering fullpay games and decent slot clubs, even if
a few hundred people DID manage to beat them out of 0.000000000001
percent of their profits. There's no reason, except stupid,
shortsighted greed, for them to tighten everything up to the point
where it squeaks.