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Federal jury awards $729,000 to victim of patron abuse

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#2

How much did the person win - over or under the ye ol $1200 needed for a W-2?

Bobfpdw

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#3

It mentioned that he was a blackjack player, and that the incident
happened when he tried to cash out his chips at the cashier.

Neither of these produces a W-2G.

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On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Robert Romanyshyn <bobfpdw@yahoo.com> wrote:

How much did the person win - over or under the ye ol $1200 needed for a
W-2?

#4

There is a CTR provision in the law. I think the casino may have been
ok asking for ID for CTR. However they called cops. Then the cops
allowed or instructed casino to take possession of the victim. Then
the subsequent arrest of victim by cops put the icing on the cake. Of
course, getting arrested is not enough to get money from cops. The
victim must win the case first. In addition, there must be some
unreasonable things happen to file for damages.

The casino gotta watch those punitive damages.

Cheers...Jeep

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> How much did the person win - over or under the ye ol $1200 needed

for a

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On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Robert Romanyshyn <bobfpdw@...> wrote:
> W-2?

It mentioned that he was a blackjack player, and that the incident
happened when he tried to cash out his chips at the cashier.

Neither of these produces a W-2G.

#5

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" Hooray for Hollywood,
That screwy bally hooey Hollywood "... :slight_smile:

Larry F.

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#6

whitejeeps - "There is a CTR provision in the law."

Correct.

whitejeeps - "I think the casino may have been ok asking for ID for
CTR."

Incorrect.

A CTR is necessary if the customer is receiving more than 10k in cash.
There are NO other circumstances in which the casino is ok DEMANDING
ID for a cashout.

Although it's not mentioned in the article, an ap knowledgeable
enough to refuse to let the casino see his ID is certainly
knowledgeable enough to be aware of the 10k limit.
I'm sure he was cashing out under that limit.

For that matter, there is legal precedent for not having to show ID
to a cop without suspicion of a crime (it is necessary - I believe -
if demanded of the driver of a car, even if no violation has been
committed).

The cop was out of line and acting as a casino tool by demanding the
ID in the first place, let alone giving the ID to the casino to copy.

#7

I should have said that whitejeeps is correct that the casino can
demand ID for a CTR.

But there is no indication in the article that a CTR was the issue.

There is an indication that the casino wanted the ID so they could bar
the ap, and send flyers to other casinos with his picture and info.

#8

Good. This couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

EE

#9

What About Suspicious Transactions?

If you receive $10,000 or less in cash, you may voluntarily file Form
8300 if the transaction appears to be suspicious.

A transaction is suspicious if it appears that a person is trying to
cause you not to file Form 8300 or is trying to cause you to file a
false or incomplete Form 8300, or if there is a sign of possible
illegal activity.

If you are suspicious, you are encouraged to call the local IRS
Criminal Investigation Division as soon as possible. Or, you can call
toll free 1-800-800-2877.

As an avid bicyclist, we are not required to have a driver's license,
therefore we are not required to show one. You are however supposed
to give your correct name. 5-4 Supreme Court

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0622/p01s01-usju.html

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whitejeeps - "I think the casino may have been ok asking for ID for
CTR."

Incorrect.

A CTR is necessary if the customer is receiving more than 10k in cash.
There are NO other circumstances in which the casino is ok DEMANDING
ID for a cashout.

Although it's not mentioned in the article, an ap knowledgeable
enough to refuse to let the casino see his ID is certainly
knowledgeable enough to be aware of the 10k limit.
I'm sure he was cashing out under that limit.

For that matter, there is legal precedent for not having to show ID
to a cop without suspicion of a crime (it is necessary - I believe -
if demanded of the driver of a car, even if no violation has been
committed).