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faces and aces

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On 28 Dec 2002 dalegwyatt dalegwyatt@yahoo.c wrote:

Harrahs in St louis Mo has a game called faces and aces.
Does anyone know where I could find correct play and info about the
game.

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Roland Langley wrote:

> Harrahs in St louis Mo has a game called faces and aces.
> Does anyone know where I could find correct play and info about the
> game.

I'd like the same information about 5/7 nickel and 5/8 quarter and
higher Treasure Chest, as found at Main Street Station, Fremont,
California, and Stardust. 4 of a kind pays at least 140 if 5 coins are
played, but payoffs on the nickel machine at MSS can be 180, 250, 500,
or 2500 coins. Not sure of the distrbution, but I've hit 180
regularly, and 250 and 500 occasionally. 2500 is very rare. You would
think that a 5/7 game would be terrible, but in practice that isn't
the case.

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On 28 Dec 2002 dalegwyatt dalegwyatt@yahoo.c wrote:

--
Pat O'Connell
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

The only way you can figure out the payback on the treasure chest machines is by knowing the frequency of the different quad payouts. Without that information all you can do is come up with a pay range.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Pat O'Connell
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] faces and aces

  I'd like the same information about 5/7 nickel and 5/8 quarter and
  higher Treasure Chest, as found at Main Street Station, Fremont,
  California, and Stardust. 4 of a kind pays at least 140 if 5 coins are
  played, but payoffs on the nickel machine at MSS can be 180, 250, 500,
  or 2500 coins. Not sure of the distrbution, but I've hit 180
  regularly, and 250 and 500 occasionally. 2500 is very rare. You would
  think that a 5/7 game would be terrible, but in practice that isn't
  the case.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Albert Pearson wrote:

  From: Pat O'Connell
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] faces and aces

  I'd like the same information about 5/7 nickel and 5/8 quarter and
  higher Treasure Chest, as found at Main Street Station, Fremont,
  California, and Stardust. 4 of a kind pays at least 140 if 5 coins are
  played, but payoffs on the nickel machine at MSS can be 180, 250, 500,
  or 2500 coins. Not sure of the distrbution, but I've hit 180
  regularly, and 250 and 500 occasionally. 2500 is very rare. You would
  think that a 5/7 game would be terrible, but in practice that isn't
  the case.
The only way you can figure out the payback on the treasure chest machines is by knowing the frequency of the different quad payouts. Without that information all you can do is come up with a pay range.

I was hoping someone had figured that out. By my estimation
(scientific wild a**ed guess), one gets 140 70%, 180 roughly 20%, 250
8%, and 500 maybe 1.995%, with that 2500 at .005%.

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  ----- Original Message -----

--
Pat O'Connell
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

I used your numbers and came up with the following.... The nickel version of treasure chest would return %97.99. The quarter version would be around %99.2 the same as regular single bonus vp.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Pat O'Connell
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] faces and aces

  Albert Pearson wrote:
  >

  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Pat O'Connell
  > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 2:39 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] faces and aces
  >
  > I'd like the same information about 5/7 nickel and 5/8 quarter and
  > higher Treasure Chest, as found at Main Street Station, Fremont,
  > California, and Stardust. 4 of a kind pays at least 140 if 5 coins are
  > played, but payoffs on the nickel machine at MSS can be 180, 250, 500,
  > or 2500 coins. Not sure of the distrbution, but I've hit 180
  > regularly, and 250 and 500 occasionally. 2500 is very rare. You would
  > think that a 5/7 game would be terrible, but in practice that isn't
  > the case.
  > The only way you can figure out the payback on the treasure chest machines is by knowing the frequency of the different quad payouts. Without that information all you can do is come up with a pay range.
  >

  I was hoping someone had figured that out. By my estimation
  (scientific wild a**ed guess), one gets 140 70%, 180 roughly 20%, 250
  8%, and 500 maybe 1.995%, with that 2500 at .005%.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Albert Pearson wrote:

  From: Pat O'Connell
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] faces and aces

  Albert Pearson wrote:
  >

  > From: Pat O'Connell
  > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 2:39 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] faces and aces
  >
  > I'd like the same information about 5/7 nickel and 5/8 quarter and
  > higher Treasure Chest, as found at Main Street Station, Fremont,
  > California, and Stardust. 4 of a kind pays at least 140 if 5 coins are
  > played, but payoffs on the nickel machine at MSS can be 180, 250, 500,
  > or 2500 coins. Not sure of the distrbution, but I've hit 180
  > regularly, and 250 and 500 occasionally. 2500 is very rare. You would
  > think that a 5/7 game would be terrible, but in practice that isn't
  > the case.
  > The only way you can figure out the payback on the treasure chest > > machines is by knowing the frequency of the different quad payouts. > > Without that information all you can do is come up with a pay range.
  >

  I was hoping someone had figured that out. By my estimation
  (scientific wild a**ed guess), one gets 140 70%, 180 roughly 20%, 250
  8%, and 500 maybe 1.995%, with that 2500 at .005%.
I used your numbers and came up with the following.... The nickel version of > treasure chest would return %97.99. The quarter version would be around > %99.2 the same as regular single bonus vp.

Close enough. The more common payoffs are fairly accurate, at least
for nickel machines. 500 and 2500 are not so accurate (I have never
gotten a 2500).

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  ----- Original Message -----
  > ----- Original Message -----

--
Pat O'Connell
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

Just for information purposes, I hit the big payoff on quads on the Treasure Chest machine at the Fremont bank of these machines, about three years ago. Haven't played it since. <G> The hit was $1195, just like hitting a RF. That's nearly 4800 coins, for what it's worth in this conversation.

Allen

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At 11:09 PM 12/29/02, you wrote:

Close enough. The more common payoffs are fairly accurate, at least
for nickel machines. 500 and 2500 are not so accurate (I have never
gotten a 2500)