Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
"Exotic Escapes" Plaza deal was a scam
Thank you for posting this.
I called the plaza and confirmed this, a manager told me it was possible that " Exotic Vacations" was not as fortgcoming as they should have been about this deal. He said the freeplay and shows are not at the Plaza.
I cancelled my deal with Living Social.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@...> wrote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
Here is the link to the Plaza's reponse
http://www.facebook.com/Plazahotelandcasino
Plaza Hotel and Casino
Hi Everyone,
Please be assured that we are reading through all guest complaints and working with Exotic Escapes on a satisfactory solution for all guests. Please note again that you can CANCEL your package and can call the Exotic Escapes reservation call center at 866-321-6043 for any assistance.
As mentioned earlier, the Plaza unfortunately did not know about this offer when it went out through Living Social and Exotic Escapes. This has created unnecessary issues and we are looking forward to additional resolutions soon. As soon as they are made, they will be posted here.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@...> wrote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
to cancel, you need to call living social
1-877-521-4191
have your vouchure number handy
i was able to back out of mine, no problem ...
(you have 30 days from date of purchase to quit it.)
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________________________________
From: Tahoe Local <att@flemingink.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:57 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: "Exotic Escapes" Plaza deal was a scam
Here is the link to the Plaza's reponse
http://www.facebook.com/Plazahotelandcasino
Plaza Hotel and Casino
Hi Everyone,
Please be assured that we are reading through all guest complaints and working with Exotic Escapes on a satisfactory solution for all guests. Please note again that you can CANCEL your package and can call the Exotic Escapes reservation call center at 866-321-6043 for any assistance.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@...> wrote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua" <ckonwin@...> wrote:
Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@> wrote:
>
> Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
>
I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
But how exactly do they work?
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local" <att@...> wrote:
Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua" <ckonwin@> wrote:
>
> Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
>
> They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@> wrote:
> >
> > Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
> >
>
The promotional slots at Casino Royale are beasts unlike few others. They are the 3-reel mechanical slots found against the wall between the players club and the entrance near Outback Steakhouse, and only accept special âfreeplayâ coupons. These coupons are usually acquired through the players club, or by playing CRâs other gimmick slot machines located on the sidewalk in front of the casino. Once funded, the promo slot cannot be cashed out. A player can only spin until he either hits the top prize or goes bust.
Hooters Casino is the only other store I can recall with this type of machine. They offer $200 âfreeplayâ for new members, which is, of course, limited to these machines. I once read on an AP forum the expected return on $200 of FP at Hooters was a fraction of one cent, so I would imagine similar returns for Casino Royale.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
But how exactly do they work?--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local" <att@> wrote:
>
> Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua" <ckonwin@> wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
> >
> > They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
> >
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
> > >
> >
>
Wow-that sucks for sure. At least Vegas World's "special" machines returned around 10%, in my experience.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ma18ks" <89109.nv@...> wrote:
The promotional slots at Casino Royale are beasts unlike few others. They are the 3-reel mechanical slots found against the wall between the players club and the entrance near Outback Steakhouse, and only accept special âfreeplayâ coupons. These coupons are usually acquired through the players club, or by playing CRâs other gimmick slot machines located on the sidewalk in front of the casino. Once funded, the promo slot cannot be cashed out. A player can only spin until he either hits the top prize or goes bust.
Hooters Casino is the only other store I can recall with this type of machine. They offer $200 âfreeplayâ for new members, which is, of course, limited to these machines. I once read on an AP forum the expected return on $200 of FP at Hooters was a fraction of one cent, so I would imagine similar returns for Casino Royale.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@> wrote:
>
> I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
> But how exactly do they work?
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local" <att@> wrote:
> >
> > Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua" <ckonwin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
> > >
> > > They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Oh yes. I would take them up on the $1000 offer for $800, $200 was for those machines. Took what came out of there, it went on green, $500 table chips on black, $500 on red and let the wheel spin. Guaranteed $500 cash for $400.
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On 3/28/2012 4:51 PM, mike wrote:
Wow-that sucks for sure. At least Vegas World's "special" machines returned around 10%, in my experience.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ma18ks"<89109.nv@...> wrote:
The promotional slots at Casino Royale are beasts unlike few others. They are the 3-reel mechanical slots found against the wall between the players club and the entrance near Outback Steakhouse, and only accept special “freeplay” coupons. These coupons are usually acquired through the players club, or by playing CR’s other gimmick slot machines located on the sidewalk in front of the casino. Once funded, the promo slot cannot be cashed out. A player can only spin until he either hits the top prize or goes bust.
Hooters Casino is the only other store I can recall with this type of machine. They offer $200 “freeplay” for new members, which is, of course, limited to these machines. I once read on an AP forum the expected return on $200 of FP at Hooters was a fraction of one cent, so I would imagine similar returns for Casino Royale.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike"<melbedewy1226@> wrote:
I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
But how exactly do they work?--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local"<att@> wrote:
Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua"<ckonwin@> wrote:
Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks"<donparks21@> wrote:
Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
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vpFREE Links: http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/Links.htm
Yahoo! Groups Links
Yeah, it was an interesting and quirky place in many ways.
For those interested in tales of Vegas World of yore check out this:
http://www.openvegas.com/vegas/forums/showthread.php?t=13321
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jack McGee <jack@...> wrote:
Oh yes. I would take them up on the $1000 offer for $800, $200 was for
those machines. Took what came out of there, it went on green, $500
table chips on black, $500 on red and let the wheel spin. Guaranteed
$500 cash for $400.On 3/28/2012 4:51 PM, mike wrote:
> Wow-that sucks for sure. At least Vegas World's "special" machines returned around 10%, in my experience.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ma18ks"<89109.nv@> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The promotional slots at Casino Royale are beasts unlike few others. They are the 3-reel mechanical slots found against the wall between the players club and the entrance near Outback Steakhouse, and only accept special âfreeplayâ coupons. These coupons are usually acquired through the players club, or by playing CRâs other gimmick slot machines located on the sidewalk in front of the casino. Once funded, the promo slot cannot be cashed out. A player can only spin until he either hits the top prize or goes bust.
>>
>> Hooters Casino is the only other store I can recall with this type of machine. They offer $200 âfreeplayâ for new members, which is, of course, limited to these machines. I once read on an AP forum the expected return on $200 of FP at Hooters was a fraction of one cent, so I would imagine similar returns for Casino Royale.
>>
>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike"<melbedewy1226@> wrote:
>>> I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
>>> But how exactly do they work?
>>>
>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local"<att@> wrote:
>>>> Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
>>>>
>>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua"<ckonwin@> wrote:
>>>>> Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
>>>>>
>>>>> They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks"<donparks21@> wrote:
>>>>>> Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
>>>>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> vpFREE Links: http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/Links.htm
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Database says nothing playable....what are the best vp games there?
If, in fact, the paytables are bad, any idea why? St. Louis has some very good games...
How is the property overall?
Thanks!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
1. 9/5 Jacks in high limit.
2. Don't know, but my guess is because they were burned badly in the past.
3. Hotel, Restaurants, and Casino (other than VP paytables) are very similar to St. Louis.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, mchaud@... wrote:
Database says nothing playable....what are the best vp games there?
If, in fact, the paytables are bad, any idea why? St. Louis has some very good games...
How is the property overall?
Thanks!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I would just go to Ameristar in Kansas City. Ameristar has 9/7 DB, 9/6 DDB, Illinois Deuces and 8/5 TB+ Progressives for 25c at two bars. They also have a $1 8/5 TB+ Progressive. The cash back rate is the same as Harrah's for new players, but premier gets 2x everyday and elite gets 3x. Ameristar also offers cash back and comps while Harrah's does not. I find it very amusing that people wait in line to play Harrah's 8/5 DDB progressive when it gets to $1500 because Ameristar offers 8/5 DDB with a $2000 royal 24/7. I know people go to Harrah's because you get out of town offers, but Ameristar has better video poker, better cash back/comps and is in better condition. Harrah's doesn't seem to care very much about the condition of its properties.
1. 9/5 Jacks in high limit.
2. Don't know, but my guess is because they were burned badly in the past.
3. Hotel, Restaurants, and Casino (other than VP paytables) are very similar to St. Louis.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, mchaud@... wrote:
Database says nothing playable....what are the best vp games there?
If, in fact, the paytables are bad, any idea why? St. Louis has some very good games...
How is the property overall?
Thanks!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I too would like a first-hand report from someone who has redeemed their OLD points, not just new ones. Wonder if there is a daily limit – some of us may have thousands of dollars to redeem.
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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Did I miss something......."OLD" points? I didnt realize there were different points.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@cox.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Redeeming Reward Points at a Harrah's property
I too would like a first-hand report from someone who has redeemed their OLD points, not just new ones. Wonder if there is a daily limit – some of us may have thousands of dollars to redeem.
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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Atlantic City kiosks will let you print a voucher for FP up $1000 a day which you take to cashier to redeem for FP. No new points or old points, all points. 2-1 every day, every property.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:
I too would like a first-hand report from someone who has redeemed their OLD points, not just new ones. Wonder if there is a daily limit â" some of us may have thousands of dollars to redeem.
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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Ameristar has a new promotion going with MGM. Play at Ameristar and you get offers for MGM properties in Las Vegas so Harrahs really has nothing to offer over Ameristar.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Austin Kelly <akchess_2000@...> wrote:
I would just go to Ameristar in Kansas City. Ameristar has 9/7 DB, 9/6 DDB, Illinois Deuces and 8/5 TB+ Progressives for 25c at two bars. They also have a $1 8/5 TB+ Progressive. The cash back rate is the same as Harrah's for new players, but premier gets 2x everyday and elite gets 3x. Ameristar also offers cash back and comps while Harrah's does not. I find it very amusing that people wait in line to play Harrah's 8/5 DDB progressive when it gets to $1500 because Ameristar offers 8/5 DDB with a $2000 royal 24/7. I know people go to Harrah's because you get out of town offers, but Ameristar has better video poker, better cash back/comps and is in better condition. Harrah's doesn't seem to care very much about the condition of its properties.
Â
1. 9/5 Jacks in high limit.
2. Don't know, but my guess is because they were burned badly in the past.
3. Hotel, Restaurants, and Casino (other than VP paytables) are very similar to St. Louis.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, mchaud@ wrote:
>
> Database says nothing playable....what are the best vp games there?
>
> If, in fact, the paytables are bad, any idea why? St. Louis has some very good games...
>
> How is the property overall?
>
> Thanks![Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I just went to cancel this deal and Living Social already canceled the voucher and gave me a $5 Deal Bucks (5 Apr 2012
Refund Exotic Escapes Vacations (Expires 5 Apr 2017)
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
Yeah, it was an interesting and quirky place in many ways.
For those interested in tales of Vegas World of yore check out this:http://www.openvegas.com/vegas/forums/showthread.php?t=13321
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jack McGee <jack@> wrote:
>
> Oh yes. I would take them up on the $1000 offer for $800, $200 was for
> those machines. Took what came out of there, it went on green, $500
> table chips on black, $500 on red and let the wheel spin. Guaranteed
> $500 cash for $400.
>
> On 3/28/2012 4:51 PM, mike wrote:
> > Wow-that sucks for sure. At least Vegas World's "special" machines returned around 10%, in my experience.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ma18ks"<89109.nv@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The promotional slots at Casino Royale are beasts unlike few others. They are the 3-reel mechanical slots found against the wall between the players club and the entrance near Outback Steakhouse, and only accept special âfreeplayâ coupons. These coupons are usually acquired through the players club, or by playing CRâs other gimmick slot machines located on the sidewalk in front of the casino. Once funded, the promo slot cannot be cashed out. A player can only spin until he either hits the top prize or goes bust.
> >>
> >> Hooters Casino is the only other store I can recall with this type of machine. They offer $200 âfreeplayâ for new members, which is, of course, limited to these machines. I once read on an AP forum the expected return on $200 of FP at Hooters was a fraction of one cent, so I would imagine similar returns for Casino Royale.
> >>
> >> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike"<melbedewy1226@> wrote:
> >>> I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
> >>> But how exactly do they work?
> >>>
> >>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local"<att@> wrote:
> >>>> Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua"<ckonwin@> wrote:
> >>>>> Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks"<donparks21@> wrote:
> >>>>>> Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
> >>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > vpFREE Links: http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/Links.htm
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
I knew this was an advantage play!
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp4comps" <kevinbaronowsky@...> wrote:
I just went to cancel this deal and Living Social already canceled the voucher and gave me a $5 Deal Bucks (5 Apr 2012
Refund Exotic Escapes Vacations (Expires 5 Apr 2017)--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, it was an interesting and quirky place in many ways.
> For those interested in tales of Vegas World of yore check out this:
>
> http://www.openvegas.com/vegas/forums/showthread.php?t=13321
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jack McGee <jack@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes. I would take them up on the $1000 offer for $800, $200 was for
> > those machines. Took what came out of there, it went on green, $500
> > table chips on black, $500 on red and let the wheel spin. Guaranteed
> > $500 cash for $400.
> >
> > On 3/28/2012 4:51 PM, mike wrote:
> > > Wow-that sucks for sure. At least Vegas World's "special" machines returned around 10%, in my experience.
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ma18ks"<89109.nv@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The promotional slots at Casino Royale are beasts unlike few others. They are the 3-reel mechanical slots found against the wall between the players club and the entrance near Outback Steakhouse, and only accept special âfreeplayâ coupons. These coupons are usually acquired through the players club, or by playing CRâs other gimmick slot machines located on the sidewalk in front of the casino. Once funded, the promo slot cannot be cashed out. A player can only spin until he either hits the top prize or goes bust.
> > >>
> > >> Hooters Casino is the only other store I can recall with this type of machine. They offer $200 âfreeplayâ for new members, which is, of course, limited to these machines. I once read on an AP forum the expected return on $200 of FP at Hooters was a fraction of one cent, so I would imagine similar returns for Casino Royale.
> > >>
> > >> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike"<melbedewy1226@> wrote:
> > >>> I have been told by multiple people that they are worthless so I have never played them.
> > >>> But how exactly do they work?
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tahoe Local"<att@> wrote:
> > >>>> Have you ever played the bank of PROMO machines at Casino Royal because that is all those vouchers are good for. You can win a 2 for 1 beer if you are lucky.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Hogua"<ckonwin@> wrote:
> > >>>>> Just wondering, why would Casino Royale free play be worthless?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> They have 99% VP, which is has an EV of $297. Even if it could only be used on slots with a HA of 15%, the EV of $300 in FP is 255.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks"<donparks21@> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.
> > >>>>>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > vpFREE Links: http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/Links.htm
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>