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What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to enter Canada? Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank Scoblete that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and 22. We don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's license and an embossed birth certificate would do???

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Those will suffice Jean.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Jean Scott
  To: AA vpFREE Group
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:30 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Entering Canada

  What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to enter Canada?
  Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank Scoblete
  that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and 22. We
  don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's license and an
  embossed birth certificate would do???
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From: "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@frugalgambler.biz>
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Subject: [vpFREE] Entering Canada
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:30:00 -0800

What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to enter Canada?
Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank Scoblete
that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and 22. We
don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's license and an
embossed birth certificate would do???

You assume right Jean...since 9/11 you need to show your license and answer a few questions. Occasionally they'll search your car and ask for the birth certificate.

Neil L

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Your voter registration card should also suffice.

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At 06:30 PM 01/16/2005, you wrote:

What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to enter Canada?
Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank Scoblete
that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and 22. We
don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's license and an
embossed birth certificate would do???
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Perhaps if it has your picture on it. Birth certificate with the
embossed seal, if not required?? is good insurance. Like wise a
pictured drivers license is also good insurance. Maybe take all
three

Also is it to get into Canada, or to get back into the USofA?

DWK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby@c...> wrote:

Your voter registration card should also suffice.

<<Also is it to get into Canada, or to get back into the USofA?>>

Both - I want to go to Canada and then come back home to Vegas!!!!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@f...>
wrote:

<<Also is it to get into Canada, or to get back into the USofA?>>

Both - I want to go to Canada and then come back home to Vegas!!!!

I meant is the documentation used to get into Canada or to get back
into the USA.

DWK

Jean -

     You should be OK with what you have. Just a word to the wise,
though - allow time for waiting in line to get to the Customs booth.
If you're REALLY lucky, it will be only 20 - 30 minutes. It could
also be much, much longer. If you're going in through Detroit, think
about taking the Ambassador Bridge instead of the tunnel, it's
usually the better bet for shorter lines (seems like less traffic).
About a month ago, we were coming back into Michigan from the Windsor
casino - the bridge was almost wide open, and the tunnel was
literally backed up completely through the tunnel, back into Windsor,
and almost all the way to the casino parking garage.

     Personally, I'm pretty sure that you and Brad won't have a
problem once you do get to the booth. Having met both of you at the
very first LVA get-together way-back-when at MSS, I can say with
strong confidence that you two are probably not going to raise any
red flags for the customs officers! :slight_smile:

- Brian in MI

What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to

enter Canada?

Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank

Scoblete

that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and

22. We

don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's license

and an

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@f...> wrote:

embossed birth certificate would do???
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@f...>
wrote:

What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to

enter Canada?

Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank

Scoblete

that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and

22. We

don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's

license and an

embossed birth certificate would do???
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Hi Jean,

Unless I missed the post, I don't believe that anyone has addressed
HOW you are entering Canada. Will you enter by car or by plane? I
can tell you, from personal experience, that it makes a BIG
difference.

Entering by car is relatively easy, and subject to the amount of
traffic, fairly fast. A birth certificate or voter's ID card is
enough documentation to get you through customs.

Entering through an International Airport is quite another story.
Because of the continuing terrorist threat, it is wise, even perhaps
necessary, to have a passport. I would certainly call the Canadian
Embassy and find out before embarking on the trip.

I can tell you, that a few years ago (PRIOR to 9/11) my daughter and
I entered Canada, through Vancouver International Airport, w/o our
passports. We were almost denied entrance even though we had voter's
ID cards and Picture Driver's Licenses in our possesion. We finally
were passed through because my daughter, who was a former Foreign
Service Officer, was able to show proof that she had a
special "Diplomatic" passport at home. We were also told that we
wouldn't be able to re-enter the USA w/o our passports. We had to
call our husbands to overnight our passports to our hotel. It's
certainly best to avoid that kind of hassle, if possible!

Have a good trip.

Babe

My wife and I went to Niagara Falls etc. two years
ago (after 9/11/2001) and although she had her
naturalization papers all we needed was our driver's
licenses.

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When I went to Canada in the early 80's, it was harder to get back into the US. They searched the car, my pocket's and my girlfriends purse (the girl I dated before I met Judy). Maybe they thought I was a draft-doger or something trying to sneak back in the country or trying to smuggle in drug's.

Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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Jean Scott <QueenofComps@frugalgambler.biz> wrote:
<<Also is it to get into Canada, or to get back into the USofA?>>

Both - I want to go to Canada and then come back home to Vegas!!!!
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, The Wild Joker <jokerswild1203@y...>
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   When I went to Canada in the early 80's, it was harder to get

back into the US. They searched the car, my pocket's and my
girlfriends purse (the girl I dated before I met Judy). Maybe they
thought I was a draft-doger or something trying to sneak back in the
country or trying to smuggle in drug's.

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Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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Jean Scott <QueenofComps@f...> wrote:
<<Also is it to get into Canada, or to get back into the USofA?>>

Both - I want to go to Canada and then come back home to Vegas!!!!

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If you and Brad REALLY want to come back,

don't say what my Daughter-In-Law said to the US Customs Agent, who
asked her what they had purchased in Canada. "Oh," she
said. "Nothing much......just that POT in the backseat!" She was
referring, of course, to a little Wedgwood cachepot, they had picked
up in an antique store. By the time my son got finished
explaining "what she meant", the Agent had looked through their
entire car. Then with a look of pity to my son, waved them through.

Babe

I have crossed the Canadian border as least a 100 times in the past 40 years, always driving, at 5 different crossings. With one exception I have only been asked for my drivers license, asked what city I was born in, how long I will be staying or how long have I been in Canada and if I am bringing anything in or back with me. Also, Canada always asks if you have any firearms with you.

That one exception happened in early August 1983 at a very obscure border crossing in Montana. I was driving a pickup/camper, loaded, headed for Alaska. They asked for everything I had, including vehicle registration, insurance papers and for proof of funds (credit cards/cash) to transit Canada. They completely searched the camper and pickup cab looking for something. They were very professional and nice about it. They didn't find whatever they were looking for and 2 hours later I went about my merry way. The only thing they did not ask for was a passport, although I did have mine with me and offered it, but they said it was not necessary. The fact that I had New Mexico license plates at the time, and with drugs coming across the Mexican border all the time, might have had something to do with it.

Bob

A couple of years ago my wife and I flew to Buffalo
to do the Niagara Falls thing, this was after 9/11. we
had an early Sat. AM flight coming back a week later
and reservations the last few days at a bed and
breakfast on the Canadian side. I wondered how long it
would take to get back across the bridge that Saturday
so decided to test it from the US side on a Sunday.
This was early June. We drove from our hotel on some
large island on the US side in the Niagara river to
the bridge and were surprised to find a large state
park on the US side. I have since found out that it is
the first state park created in the US. Anyway, we
parked and wandered around that park, wished I had
brought my camera since there is a wooden staircase
literally right beside the American Falls etc. and
then we saw a sign pointing to the walkway to Canada.
We did the walkway and found a turnstile as you got on
the bridge with a permanent sign on it to the effect
if you were NOT an American citizen you needed some ID
to get back which I interpreted to mean Americans
could use the walkway in a swim suit. So we walked
halfway across the bridge where the sidewalk
(separated from the traffic lanes by a low wall) had
marked on it the boundary between Canada and the US. I
did have my binoculars, it was a great spot to view
the Canadian Falls. When we walked back, we had to go
into a Customs/Immigration building where some
government official ran our driver's licenses through
some database looking for terrorists or whatever. My
wife is a naturalized citizen and had left her papers
in the car but fortunately had her driver's license in
her purse. I confronted the agent about the sign and
the SOB simply said "We used to be more lax". I asked
him what if we had left our ID's in the car and he
just shrugged. Another time I rented a plane and flew
to Seattle/Tacoma among other places. My research
found no good airport for a private plane in Vancouver
so we rented a car (my grandfather lived in Tacoma)
and drove to Vancouber to visit my wife's sister. On
the way back, we went through one of the obscure
crossings with my brother-in-law in his car behind us.
He said they never checked anything so I had him carry
the box of Cuban cigars I bought legally in Canada
while I smoked one. I told everyone that I was willing
to sacrifice one half smoked expensive Cuban cigar if
confronted but the crossing guy said nada about it:-)

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I have crossed the Canadian border as least a 100
times in the past 40
years, always driving, at 5 different crossings.
With one exception I

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@f...>
wrote:

What legal documents do you have to have in your possession to

enter Canada?

Brad and I will be going to a Players Jamboree sponsored by Frank

Scoblete

that will be held at Casino Windsor in Ontario, Canada, May 21 and

22. We

don't have passports - but I am assuming a picture driver's

license and an

embossed birth certificate would do???
________________________________________

Jean,

   In addition to all those important documents, (and don't forget
your Blockbuster Video card) you will need to know the words to "Oh
Canada" just in case a border guard asks you to sing it. I can't
tell you how many times I've had to sing that song at the border to
be allowed to go over to Casino Windsor and gamble. But I was lucky.
Being from the Detroit area, I get to watch a lot of Canadian hockey
games and knew "Oh Canada" almost as good as our national anthem "
The Star Sprinkled ...something or other. Anyway, here's the words
to the song. Try and remember them just in case.

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

   TM & VP

   "It's so hard to concentrate on winning when the casino is
concentrating so hard on tyrying to make me lose."
                    --VP Pappy

Thanx so much to everyone for all the advice. I think we might go ahead and get passports. We might want to take a last-minute scouting trip to the casinos in Macau one of these days!!!!!

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Jean...it's money well spent; when I checked in to LAS with my eticket I
had to scan my own passport to get a boarding pass; unfortunately, the
same gentlemen who was at the NWA counter 3 years ago who checked me in
then, could only strap a tag on my luggage now...oh how times have
change...at any rate, spending the bucks on the passport makes good
sense to even the most frugal :slight_smile: gamblers

Brian

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WC Fields: Not the way I play it, No.
(My Little Chickadee, 1940)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Scott [mailto:QueenofCo…@…biz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:23 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Entering Canada

Thanx so much to everyone for all the advice. I think we might go ahead
and
get passports. We might want to take a last-minute scouting trip to the

casinos in Macau one of these days!!!!!
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <QueenofComps@f...>
wrote:

Thanx so much to everyone for all the advice. I think we might go
ahead and

get passports. We might want to take a last-minute scouting trip

to the

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casinos in Macau one of these days!!!!!

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Hi Jean,

My husband & I were in Macau in 1986, long before it was even a
gleam in Steve Wynn's eye.

We had been vacationing in Hong Kong, and found ourselves at loose
ends on Christmas Eve. The Peninsula Hotel, where we were staying,
was completely sold out for Christmas Eve dinner reservations. Every
other hotel and restaurant in which the concierge tried,
unsucessfully, to book our dinner, was also completely reserved.

In desperation, the concierge suggested trying a hotel in Macau, a
45 minute ride on the "fast" Hydrofoil. Not wanting to eat Dim Sum
for Christmas Eve dinner, we decided to let him reserve dinner in
Macau.

After boarding the Hydrofoil with 6 very rough looking local
citizens (all of whom seemed to smoking cow dung) we wondered if
perhaps we were being a little TOO adventuresome! However, despite
a lot of rough water pitching and yawing of the Hydrofoil, we made
shore w/o incident.

Once in Macau, it took no more than 10 minutes to clear Customs, and
grab a Taxi to the hotel. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name
of the hotel (and don't know if even still exists) because I would
certainly recommend it for dinner.

The hotel was a glorious white Colonial Palace, bedecked with every
kind of imaginable Christmas decoration, and with Christmas Carols
playing in every public room.

We throughly enjoyed a great traditional Christmas dinner, before
deciding to inspect the casino on the premises. We had been told
that the 2 or 3 major hotels in Macau, all had casinos.

The casino in this hotel consisted of a small ante-room with a few
non-descript slot machines, adjoining a very fancy gold-bedecked
larger room containing a few BJ & Bacarat tables. The gamblers were
all dressed in semi-formal attire, and were playimg VERY high
stakes. After deciding that this not what we were looking for in an
evenings entertainment, we asked one of the tuxedoed staff where we
might find a BJ game with lower stakes. W/O looking down his nose
(TOO much) he informed us that all the hotel casinos had similiar BJ
stakes, but that we could try a casino where the Macau locals
played.

We taxied over to an area with 2 or 3 much larger casinos, all
adjacent to each other. I played a few slot machines, losing the
equivilant of $20.00 or $30.00 in an hour or so.

Meanwhile, my husband went to play BJ. As he later described the
playing skills of those at his table, "they should have just mailed
their money, and avoided the hassle of playing". In addition to
their cluelessness regarding basic strategy, they endeavored to give
my husband instructions on proper play as they grouped behind him,
and bet on his hand. They accomplished this by putting their chips
next to his, in his betting circle. (This practice is allowed and
encouraged in many overseas casinos). Since their instructions were
in Chinese, he didn't understand much, but he could tell they
getting very aggravated with him. One or two of them switched to
Portugese, hoping he might understand that language, and when that
also failed, they picked up their chips and left, to his relief.

As luck would have it, my husband was having a good run of cards,
including several BJs, and was loathe to leave the table.
Appartently, his play became a little "too strong" for them, because
a VERY large Tuxedo appeared, and suggested to him, in quite loud
and understandable English,that he had played long enough. We got
the message and left hurridly, hoping we wouldn't get mugged while
waiting for a Taxi.

Fortunately, we returned to Hong Kong quite safely, savoring the
excitement of the adventure, but very glad to be back w/o incident.
The concierge at the Peninsula later told us how foolish we had been
to go to a non-hotel casino, where robbings, stabbings and murders
were commonplace.

With the advent of Steve Wynn & partners, the old style Macau
casinos will be no more. I guess that really is a good thing!

  Babe

I enjoyed your Macau report. We were there about 15 years ago. Same as you we took the Hydrofoil from Hong Kong. I forget name of casinos - but I certainly remember playing BJ and men in sleeveless undershirts reaching over me to bet on my circle. It was summer and their armpits were about a half inch from my nose - I'll never forget that smell.

We have always enjoyed going off the beaten path - some great adventures - but probably foolhardy at times!!!!

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