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Ednar's Royal Drought

Ednar used to live in the Chicago area and he is a very knowledgeable
player (Probably well into the top 10% of the active members in this
group!). Actually there is still one single line .05 game in the Chicago
Area (Since it takes 10-45 coins for full pay it really should be
considered a .10 to .45 game I guess) that is a positive play (barely)
counting the cash back but not bounce back.

[Original Message]
From: Elliott L. Shapiro <elliotts2345@earthlink.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/15/2005 7:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Ednar's Royal Drought

If you are playing .05c, you are most likely playing a negative game.
If you do not recognize this, then possible you are also playing
negative 25c games.
This would account for losses, but not for a lack of royals.

>I am glad I am only playing .05 and .25!!!!
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>From: "paladin415x" <paladin415x@yahoo.com>
>To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:36 AM
>Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Ednar's Royal Drought
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>> Last year, I had 5 $8K royals in ten days-and was $5K loser, playing
>> nothing more volatile than NSUD.
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>> I have had six losing months in a row, which is not impossible, but
>> most of my bankroll goes into making lower variance, higher certainty
>> plays.
>>
>> Sometimes, it's hard not to take the results personally. Then I
>> remember how much I won when learning to play and playing junk, and
>> two streaks at one casino where I made at least one royal every time I
>> played (sometimes 2) in a month. Then, there was the AC play, where
>> waiting for my turn on the featured machine, I hit a RF for $20 K in 3
>> min. There was the time in CA, I drove through the desert and hit one
>> for $25K-also in 3 minutes-and got walked out by security.
>>
>> I know one pro who is down 10 royals playing 5-line NSUD this year.
>> Just a sick number. I haven't had a royal playing 5-line Deuces in
>> over a year, and these days lose 8% to the drop on average.
>>
>> I have heard of pros playing 10/7 at Coast, with the .5% card, losing
>> 8-9 royals straight. I have heard of one -$35K swing playing $1 FPDW
>> with .25% on the card. One aging 10/7 hustler told me a couple of
>> years back he wasn't profitable for the year until 12/23 or something
>> like that. A couple of years ago, I was playing part time, and won
>> $45K the last six weeks to get me to even-playing $1 and $2 stuff. I
>> know one pro who found a $2 101% Joker 3-liner and lost $65K playing

it.

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:26:59 -0700, you wrote:
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>> The most frustrating thing is that there have been a plethora of great
>> plays this summer, and I'm getting totally whacked at almost all of
>> them. Much better than last summer, where I did well playing marginal
>> stuff. But this is the business we've chosen, Michael...
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Howard..... Thanks for the vote of confidence. I think that several of us were able to work together to find the top games. And learn to play them correctly. And I also think that we provided a level of moral support that I know I appreciated.

I may have to come back to play "the game". I still have my strat card!!!! And we have several of them in .25 and higher around here.... SO I can practice before I come.

And for the record, when it comes to VP knowledge Howard is the one who is close to the top. He is far above me.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@earthlink.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Ednar's Royal Drought

Ednar used to live in the Chicago area and he is a very knowledgeable
player (Probably well into the top 10% of the active members in this
group!). Actually there is still one single line .05 game in the Chicago
Area (Since it takes 10-45 coins for full pay it really should be
considered a .10 to .45 game I guess) that is a positive play (barely)
counting the cash back but not bounce back.

[Original Message]
From: Elliott L. Shapiro <elliotts2345@earthlink.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/15/2005 7:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Ednar's Royal Drought

If you are playing .05c, you are most likely playing a negative game.
If you do not recognize this, then possible you are also playing
negative 25c games.
This would account for losses, but not for a lack of royals.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:26:59 -0700, you wrote:

>I am glad I am only playing .05 and .25!!!!