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#1

Seems like we are just not too lucky at drawings so in the past we have
pretty much ignored them unless we just happened to be at a casino with
drawings.

  Recently tried really hard to win a ipad at the Gold Coast. Had 30,000
entries and attended all 3 drawings for ipads/electronics, but no luck.
(Thursday special drawing). Then went to Friday and Sat. "take or trade it"
since I had so many entries, and actually won $1000 in one of the drawings
(traded $700 and got $1000) (Fortunately while I was playing all that week
I won a bunch of $ - yippie! But actually lost $4000 on the day I won the
$1000 drawing...argh....)

Happened to go to the Palms on that Friday and didn't realize they were
having a drawing there. Met someone I knew who came in 2nd ($2000 and an
AirMac prize) who had 12,000 entries - apparently was playing for maybe 24 hrs
during the week at 100 play quarters to get so many entries. Wow. I had
400 entries, so stayed for that drawing and won an Ipod shuffle and $75.

Since I still wanted iPad, I tried really hard this week to win one at the
Palms, and finally did on Friday night at the Palms. yippie. I racked up
over 4000 entries playing 50 play quarter DDB, which I don't normally play
(5 play is more my speed). I managed to break even on play during the
week, fortunately. The 1st place winner in the drawing had 69 entries! 2nd
place had 200. Some of the other people who came in higher places than I
did had 200 entries and 700 entries.

Tonight was Sat. drawing, so back I went, and squeaked in at 7th place
(shuffle and $200). Meanwhile I ran into the same two women who had about 200
entries, and they both came in with higher places than I did (first called,
bigger prizes). Even my husband played a little at the Palms (325
entries) but he wasn't called in either drawing.

Just goes to show you that maybe it doesn't matter if you had a lot of play
or not...maybe having high number of entries makes it a bit more likely
you will win something, but not necessarily a great prize with 10 names
called.

Someone told me one person had won a car at the Palms with 12 entries.
Another friend told me she was at a Southpoint drawing and a woman won $1000
with 1 entry!

But at least I actually won the iPad after 2 weeks with a LOT of play.
Probably a lot easier on the nerves and back and fingers to just buy one
though! Now I need a rest.

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#2

Way back when on the famed (or doomed) treasure hunt drawing that Harrahs did, I literally only had 17 (which was 325 points worth.. whoopie) entries and was drawn for a chance to go on the treasure hunt.. luckily i didn't pick that sqaure, but won $1500... not bad for only putting in a 100 bucks.. Unfortunatly, I have given waaaaaaaaaay more than back over the past years.. The best story was a drawing in Pahrump for a whole outdoor grill island set.. they were collecting entries for a whole month, there had to be over 10,000 tickets in the drum... I popped in 20 minutes before the drawing, earned enough points for 2 tickets, and had my named pulled... I literally ticked off the entire establishment..

So yes, it is possible to win with hardly anything in the drum..virtual drum or not..

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From: "misscraps@aol.com" <misscraps@aol.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] drawings

Seems like we are just not too lucky at drawings so in the past we have
pretty much ignored them unless we just happened to be at a casino with
drawings.

Recently tried really hard to win a ipad at the Gold Coast. Had 30,000
entries and attended all 3 drawings for ipads/electronics, but no luck.
(Thursday special drawing). Then went to Friday and Sat. "take or trade it"
since I had so many entries, and actually won $1000 in one of the drawings
(traded $700 and got $1000) (Fortunately while I was playing all that week
I won a bunch of $ - yippie! But actually lost $4000 on the day I won the
$1000 drawing...argh....)

Happened to go to the Palms on that Friday and didn't realize they were
having a drawing there. Met someone I knew who came in 2nd ($2000 and an
AirMac prize) who had 12,000 entries - apparently was playing for maybe 24 hrs
during the week at 100 play quarters to get so many entries. Wow. I had
400 entries, so stayed for that drawing and won an Ipod shuffle and $75.

Since I still wanted iPad, I tried really hard this week to win one at the
Palms, and finally did on Friday night at the Palms. yippie. I racked up
over 4000 entries playing 50 play quarter DDB, which I don't normally play
(5 play is more my speed). I managed to break even on play during the
week, fortunately. The 1st place winner in the drawing had 69 entries! 2nd
place had 200. Some of the other people who came in higher places than I
did had 200 entries and 700 entries.

Tonight was Sat. drawing, so back I went, and squeaked in at 7th place
(shuffle and $200). Meanwhile I ran into the same two women who had about 200
entries, and they both came in with higher places than I did (first called,
bigger prizes). Even my husband played a little at the Palms (325
entries) but he wasn't called in either drawing.

Just goes to show you that maybe it doesn't matter if you had a lot of play
or not...maybe having high number of entries makes it a bit more likely
you will win something, but not necessarily a great prize with 10 names
called.

Someone told me one person had won a car at the Palms with 12 entries.
Another friend told me she was at a Southpoint drawing and a woman won $1000
with 1 entry!

But at least I actually won the iPad after 2 weeks with a LOT of play.
Probably a lot easier on the nerves and back and fingers to just buy one
though! Now I need a rest.

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#3

Miss Craps concluded: Just goes to show you that
maybe it doesn't matter if you had a lot of play

or not...maybe having high number of entries makes it a bit more likely you
will win something, but not necessarily a great prize with 10 names called.

What she says is true, but misleading.

The chances of being called first is correlated with how
many entries you have. But not perfectly correlated. If she has 4000 tickets at
the Palms for 100 drawings, she'll probably get called 70 times --- often
first. That's a lot of tickets for their drawings. Someone who has 100 tickets
for the same 100 drawings might be called once or twice.

The thing is that there might be 200 players each
drawing night with 100 tickets or less. One of them sometimes wins --- but 199
of them don't! That person who won tells everybody that it only takes a few
tickets. The other 199 tell of that one time in 2009 when they won as well,
forgetting to mention that they have showed up again and again and again since
then with no drawing luck.

Earning 4000 tickets for a Palms drawing takes $400,000
in coin-in --- if you're playing on a video poker machine that includes 1¢ or
5¢
games. Playing 9/6 DDB perfectly implies an expected loss of $4,008 --- a lot
more if you don't play perfectly. At the Palms this offset by $1,000 in free
play (or $2,000 if you used a 2x point coupon which was available once during a
3-week period if you got the coupon book in the mail). This will qualify you
for a pretty good mailer for a month or two. To my mind the fact that she broke
even (presumably meaning she came out $1000 or $2000 ahead including free play)
is largely irrelevant. I believe you should judge your decisions based on EV.
NOT on actual results.

If you were guaranteed to win the IMAC and the $3,000 in
cash that would go with it, it might be a good investment (if you can afford
the swings of $400,000 of DDB. This is likely not a concern for Miss Craps, but
for many players it would be.) But as Miss Craps concluded, you are NOT
guaranteed to win first prize --- or any prize at all.

Sometimes I have played this much during a similar
promotion, although I play 8/5 Bonus which gives the casino $700 less of EV
compared to 9/6 DDB. (The best game EV-wise that counts for promos at the Palms
is 25¢
Ten Play 9/6 JoB. You can get about $7000 coin-in per hour on these machines.
It takes 50+ hours in less than a week to earn 4000 tickets. Yes it's possible if you have nothing else to do that week,
but . . . ) It is inconceivable to me that I would voluntarily give up an extra
$700 in EV to play for a drawing. I am grateful for Miss Craps and others who
are willing to do this.

Bob

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#4

On April 21st the Audi drawing at Silverton was a shocker.
The guy who won the car only had 5 FREE entries. He was just going to the Aloha Festival and got his 5 free entires they give anyone who asks, and got picked first for Car. Players I know were playing every day, getting the max. 50 per day, said NOT FAIR. Casinos are nuts to limit entries, and even worse give out free ones to non gamblers.

I tried really hard at the Palms, but no luck in that drawing all month. There are probably about 50-60 hard core players, who put on a lot of points for entries, and they take turns getting picked. 10 winners is not enough!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coleman <pdcolemanjr@...> wrote:

Way back when on the famed (or doomed) treasure hunt drawing that Harrahs did, I literally only had 17 (which was 325 points worth.. whoopie) entries and was drawn for a chance to go on the treasure hunt.. luckily i didn't pick that sqaure, but won $1500... not bad for only putting in a 100 bucks.. Unfortunatly, I have given waaaaaaaaaay more than back over the past years.. The best story was a drawing in Pahrump for a whole outdoor grill island set.. they were collecting entries for a whole month, there had to be over 10,000 tickets in the drum... I popped in 20 minutes before the drawing, earned enough points for 2 tickets, and had my named pulled... I literally ticked off the entire establishment..

So yes, it is possible to win with hardly anything in the drum..virtual drum or not..

________________________________
From: "misscraps@..." <misscraps@...>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] drawings

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Seems like we are just not too lucky at drawings so in the past we have
pretty much ignored them unless we just happened to be at a casino with
drawings.

Recently tried really hard to win a ipad at the Gold Coast. Had 30,000
entries and attended all 3 drawings for ipads/electronics, but no luck.
(Thursday special drawing). Then went to Friday and Sat. "take or trade it"
since I had so many entries, and actually won $1000 in one of the drawings
(traded $700 and got $1000) (Fortunately while I was playing all that week
I won a bunch of $ - yippie! But actually lost $4000 on the day I won the
$1000 drawing...argh....)

Happened to go to the Palms on that Friday and didn't realize they were
having a drawing there. Met someone I knew who came in 2nd ($2000 and an
AirMac prize) who had 12,000 entries - apparently was playing for maybe 24 hrs
during the week at 100 play quarters to get so many entries. Wow. I had
400 entries, so stayed for that drawing and won an Ipod shuffle and $75.

Since I still wanted iPad, I tried really hard this week to win one at the
Palms, and finally did on Friday night at the Palms. yippie. I racked up
over 4000 entries playing 50 play quarter DDB, which I don't normally play
(5 play is more my speed). I managed to break even on play during the
week, fortunately. The 1st place winner in the drawing had 69 entries! 2nd
place had 200. Some of the other people who came in higher places than I
did had 200 entries and 700 entries.

Tonight was Sat. drawing, so back I went, and squeaked in at 7th place
(shuffle and $200). Meanwhile I ran into the same two women who had about 200
entries, and they both came in with higher places than I did (first called,
bigger prizes). Even my husband played a little at the Palms (325
entries) but he wasn't called in either drawing.

Just goes to show you that maybe it doesn't matter if you had a lot of play
or not...maybe having high number of entries makes it a bit more likely
you will win something, but not necessarily a great prize with 10 names
called.

Someone told me one person had won a car at the Palms with 12 entries.
Another friend told me she was at a Southpoint drawing and a woman won $1000
with 1 entry!

But at least I actually won the iPad after 2 weeks with a LOT of play.
Probably a lot easier on the nerves and back and fingers to just buy one
though! Now I need a rest.

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