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Double Super Times Play

I most likely am way behind the times on this, but I've just heard of a game called double super times pay - multipliers before and after the deal or something like that, 7 coins in for full pay, reportedly positive EV.

Can anyone tell me more about it -- or give me the link to someplace to learn. I assume that, like STP, it is the same playing strategy as the underlying game you select. I am interested in the actual EV if Jacks or Better is the underlying game, and the variance compared to single-line Jacks or Better.

I know that in "regular" super times play, part of the increased EV is from the royal flush with a 15x (or other) multiplier, which of course is going to be a fairly uncommon event, therefore the higher variance.

Finally, is there a chart telling where it is available; it is my understanding that it is fairly limited availability.

--BG

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http://www.videopoker.com/play_games/free/?game=88
http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/double-super-times-pay/

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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Barry Glazer <b.glazer@att.net> wrote:

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I most likely am way behind the times on this, but I've just heard of a
game called double super times pay - multipliers before and after the deal
or something like that, 7 coins in for full pay, reportedly positive EV.

Can anyone tell me more about it -- or give me the link to someplace to
learn.

FYI... its not a positive game, unless you add in slot club bennies. The best I've seen in Vegas is the 8/5 bonus ( 99.7 ) and in AC its the
9/5 jacks ( 99.0 ). For the locations, videopoker.com should tell you , and the wizard has an analysis of the game. There is no change in strategy. A good starting number, for 8/5 bonus five play (which is a low volatility game,) I'd use the rule of 40 which is
40 X 35 = 1400 coins session bankroll.
regards...Tom

PS - the game is much more fun than the normal STP poker.

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I most likely am way behind the times on this, but I've just heard of a game called double super times pay - multipliers before and after the deal or something like that, 7 coins in for full pay, reportedly positive EV.

Can anyone tell me more about it -- or give me the link to someplace to learn. I assume that, like STP, it is the same playing strategy as the underlying game you select. I am interested in the actual EV if Jacks or Better is the underlying game, and the variance compared to single-line Jacks or Better.

I know that in "regular" super times play, part of the increased EV is from the royal flush with a 15x (or other) multiplier, which of course is going to be a fairly uncommon event, therefore the higher variance.

Finally, is there a chart telling where it is available; it is my understanding that it is fairly limited availability.