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double bonus deuces wild

I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce. Thanks for any advice!

I have played the full pay version of this game (25-12 for RF and SF) and 2A
is right. Also 2A is better than 2AHs (H means honor from bridge which is T
or higher.)

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
RandomStu
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:30 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a
single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when
there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do
this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.
Thanks for any advice!

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er, i'm pretty sure you should never hold 2A from 2AHs playing DBDW.
with a flush penalty, hold just the deuce; otherwise, hold the wild
RF3.

cheers,

five

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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, pyiddy <pyiddy@att.net> wrote:

I have played the full pay version of this game (25-12 for RF and SF) and 2A
is right. Also 2A is better than 2AHs (H means honor from bridge which is T
or higher.)

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
RandomStu
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:30 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a
single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when
there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do
this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.
Thanks for any advice!

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Sorry. fivespot is absolutely correct! Used to play this game in
multi-strike format but not for a couple of years since my home casino
trashed the paytables.

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
fivespot
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 3:15 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

er, i'm pretty sure you should never hold 2A from 2AHs playing DBDW.
with a flush penalty, hold just the deuce; otherwise, hold the wild
RF3.

cheers,

five

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, pyiddy <pyiddy@att.net <mailto:pyiddy%40att.net> > wrote:

I have played the full pay version of this game (25-12 for RF and SF) and

2A

is right. Also 2A is better than 2AHs (H means honor from bridge which is

T

or higher.)

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Of

RandomStu
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:30 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a
single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when
there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do
this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.
Thanks for any advice!

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Stu wrote:
I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a

single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when

there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do

this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.

My first
piece of advice is to not play this game at the Rio. They are very unlikely to
have good pay schedules. Next door at the Gold Coast they have the 99.8%
version of this game from 50¢
to $2 single line. (Possibly for quarters as well --- I haven't looked for that.)

FVP (early
edition of Wolf Video Poker) has a good strategy creation component. The
problem is drawing to a single deuce gives you 178K possible draws and drawing
to deuce ace gives you 16K draws. The strategy depends on which ones of those
you are excluding from your calculations. If you are able to exclude a
particular subset of hands because you know penalty card situations, the
"base play" may well change.

You've
gotten a couple of posts giving penalty card considerations for a game with a
different pay schedule than the game you are playing. Penalty card
considerations are really pay schedule specific. The penalty cards (e.g. a
deuce, ace, honor card suited with the ace, and another suited card suited with
the ace) may or may not be the same when the pay schedule changes. In this case, the penalty card rules given to you doesn't stay the same with the different pay schedule. In the 99.8% game, holding 2 Ah Kh 7h 4c you
just hold the deuce. In the 98.6% game you hold deuce ace king.

Bob

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Shameless plug for Shack's free strategy generator:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/calculator/
Runs on smart phones, right?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:

Stu wrote:
I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a

> single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when

> there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do

> this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.

My first
piece of advice is to not play this game at the Rio. They are very unlikely to
have good pay schedules. Next door at the Gold Coast they have the 99.8%
version of this game from 50�
to $2 single line. (Possibly for quarters as well --- I haven't looked for that.)

FVP (early
edition of Wolf Video Poker) has a good strategy creation component. The
problem is drawing to a single deuce gives you 178K possible draws and drawing
to deuce ace gives you 16K draws. The strategy depends on which ones of those
you are excluding from your calculations. If you are able to exclude a
particular subset of hands because you know penalty card situations, the
"base play" may well change.

You've
gotten a couple of posts giving penalty card considerations for a game with a
different pay schedule than the game you are playing. Penalty card
considerations are really pay schedule specific. The penalty cards (e.g. a
deuce, ace, honor card suited with the ace, and another suited card suited with
the ace) may or may not be the same when the pay schedule changes. In this case, the penalty card rules given to you doesn't stay the same with the different pay schedule. In the 99.8% game, holding 2 Ah Kh 7h 4c you
just hold the deuce. In the 98.6% game you hold deuce ace king.

Bob

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Night wrote: Shameless plug for Shack's free strategy generator:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/calculator/

Runs on smart phones, right?

  .

  I didn't know about this. Thank you very much. You can bet we'll discuss it on the radio show. I'll find out about smart phones --- including "if" and "which ones" Bob

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Thanks, Bob. I misspoke in my original post. We're staying at Rio, but playing full-pay at Gold Coast (and Palms).

The DBDW strategy that I'm using (based on my old Frugal VP software) says with a deuce and an ace and nothing better -- e.g. 2 Ah Qs 7c 3d -- to hold the ace and deuce, not the deuce alone. This situation is coming up quite frequently, so my post was to confirm that I'm playing this correctly, or at least close enough for a simple strategy that doesn't consider penalty cards.

Thanks, iguana, for the wizard of odds link. It's a great resource, and it works on my Droid!

Will this work playing online at Bovada?

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From: nightoftheiguana2000

Shameless plug for Shack's free strategy generator:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/calculator/
Runs on smart phones, right?

Am I dreaming? I cannot find a vpfree digest email that said that the Palms was putting back some FPDW machines. After promising never to stay there again and burning all my points, I'm going to reconsider if the machines are back.
I thought someone wrote that, but I cannot find it in my deleted messages.
If anyone has this info, please email me as I'm booking now and am considering the Palms. ( I hate that damn $20 per day resort fee) that might keep me from staying there.
Looking to stay June 11 for 3 days.
It's as cheap to book a Southwest Vacation as it is to book the flights alone almost.
Brad
Amarillo

Brad - message #120660 posted by msVPFree May 6th at 10:32 p.m. Here's the text:

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Palms has added 20 uprights in two banks by hotel registration with 25c/50c FPDW, 10/7 DB and 10/6 DDB.

Big signs overhead proclaim the good paytables. Of course they are stickered $4 per point and excluded from promotions.

These were added to vpFREE2.com today and I saw them myself this afternoon.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@...> wrote:

Am I dreaming? I cannot find a vpfree digest email that said that the Palms was putting back some FPDW machines. After promising never to stay there again and burning all my points, I'm going to reconsider if the machines are back.
I thought someone wrote that, but I cannot find it in my deleted messages.
If anyone has this info, please email me as I'm booking now and am considering the Palms. ( I hate that damn $20 per day resort fee) that might keep me from staying there.
Looking to stay June 11 for 3 days.
It's as cheap to book a Southwest Vacation as it is to book the flights alone almost.
Brad
Amarillo

I was there today and they have 20 uprights in front of the hotel check-in desk that have .25 and .50 FPDW, 10/7 DB, and 10/6 DDB. The machines were fast and I really enjoyed the .50 cent FPDW. Big signs so I'm guessing they'll last for a while, although maybe not at the .50 cent level.

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From: bradr19 <briffel@suddenlink.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Palms - FPDW??

Am I dreaming? I cannot find a vpfree digest email that said that the Palms was putting back some FPDW machines. After promising never to stay there again and burning all my points, I'm going to reconsider if the machines are back.
I thought someone wrote that, but I cannot find it in my deleted messages.
If anyone has this info, please email me as I'm booking now and am considering the Palms. ( I hate that damn $20 per day resort fee) that might keep me from staying there.
Looking to stay June 11 for 3 days.
It's as cheap to book a Southwest Vacation as it is to book the flights alone almost.
Brad
Amarillo

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