Don and Mike's at Majestic etc. etc.

[Howard_Stern]

I also believe the progressive feed is 0.25%. You might want to learn one of the other games on that progressive as there are games with higher returns than 9-6 JOB on that progressive. The highest is the One Eyed Jacks which has a reset at 99.98% but is far and away the most difficult game in the Chicago Area. The excellent strategy I have been given is three to four times as long as a typical strategy chart not including the progressive adjustments. This cannot be done on Frugal or VPSM in their current state. At reset value the RF is a little more common than at JOB so that at $6300 the difference will be lower as JOB would have a more frequent change in strategy than OEJW. The double bonus deuces resets at 99.81% and the Triple Pay Plus is 99.80% at reset. That deuce game also is on the Multi-Strike games at 99.96%.

Sure the buffet is better at Harrah's East Chicago but is there any decent VP?

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----- Original Message -----
From: cmayhem2001
To: vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 5/26/2004 10:42:37 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_Chicago] Re: Don and Mike's at Majestic etc. etc.

--- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "johnnyzee48127"
<John.G.Zaroff@d...> wrote:

I stopped by the dollar progressive bar at Don and Mike's. The

meter

was at $4750. I saw one woman playing 3 coins and the meter went

up

a penny for the hand. I only watched a couple of hands but I

would

geuss it's $0.02 for a full coin bet, or 0.4%. There was only the
one lady playing short coin at noon on Monday.

Played a little hooky, this afternoon and found myself at MS
progreesive bar. Alone at the bar while I played, the progressive
was advancing at 1 penny per $5 hand except at every 4th hand the
meter would advance by 2 pennies. I guess this means a rate
of .25%. Does all this make sense? First time I have given any
attention to the rate at which a progressive advances.

Progressive was at about $6300 this afternoon. I was quite happy to
be playing what I calculated at the time to be a game at a .5% (JB)
advantage, but my analysis this evening shows I wasn't aggressive
enough in pursuit of the royal.

Some conclusions after a short talk to a host: Based on our 12K
action that day host was willing to comp Koko Taylor or Trump Hotel,
but not both. We didn't take either. Based on a typically nebulous
conversation with a host, I'm guessing our play was worth maybe $80
in comps or .66%.

I'm unsure how long comps remain active, but comp accounts that can't
be banked have some pretty bad disadvantages. It forces you to be a
pig or waste comps.

The new buffet has improved, but is still far from the quality of
Harrah's.

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[Chandler1]

I also believe the progressive feed is 0.25%. You might want to learn one of the other games on that progressive as there are games with higher returns than 9-6 JOB on that progressive. The highest is the One Eyed Jacks which has a reset at 99.98% but is far and away the most difficult game in the Chicago Area. The excellent strategy I have been given is three to four times as long as a typical strategy chart not including the progressive adjustments. This cannot be done on Frugal or VPSM in their current state. At reset value the RF is a little more common than at JOB so that at $6300 the difference will be lower as JOB would have a more frequent change in strategy than OEJW. The double bonus deuces resets at 99.81% and the Triple Pay Plus is 99.80% at reset. That deuce game also is on the Multi-Strike games at 99.96%.

Thanks for the confirmation on the progressive. The reason I doggedly stick with JB is only partly due to ignorance. I'd love to squeeze an extra few tenths percent ER out of my play, but even if I were able to obtain a strategy for OEJ, it sounds complex and has no practice vehicle. I also suspect volatility is high. I remain curious, but am skeptical that it will be highly played by this casual player. I scratched my head for a while on how to configure the deuces game on my software, but quickly moved on to the TPP game. After a little practice I have a modest familiarity with TPP, but I also gain an understanding that the game is pretty volatile, as I suspect is the case with all the available higher ER options at the bar. I know there is the distinct possibility that the session losses for TPP, and like volatile games, will quickly eclipse what I usually am comfortable with in a casual afternoon of gambling in my hometown. For example, yesterday I got spanked to the tune of $500 playing JB --Only 2 sets of quads (5s and dealt 10s) in roughly 2000 hands. The quad dearth was well below average but certainly not unusual. My losses playing TPP may have doubled with a similar session. No it's not exactly good math and driven by psychological bankroll, but I just figure I'll be playing more hands of JB before cutting a session short due to losses, and more hands at 100.5% at least approaches the theoretical gain from fewer hands at 100.8%

OTOH, I learn that some of the strategy changes required in JB with a $6000 royal increase volatility more than I thought --Stuff like breaking high pairs for 3 cards to a royal.

Sure the buffet is better at Harrah's East Chicago but is there any decent VP?

Point taken.

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At 11:33 PM 5/26/2004, you wrote: