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I asked before and received no reply so I thought I'd ask again and hope for better luck.
HAS ANYONE TRIED ANY OF ROB SINGER'S METHODS for at least 100 hours or more?
IF SO, FOR ABOUT HOW MANY HOURS AND WHAT WAS YOUR NET GAIN/LOSS for ALL of your sessions combined?
Thanks Much.
BCS
No
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bcarstew" <BCarStew@...> wrote:
HAS ANYONE TRIED ANY OF ROB SINGER'S METHODS for at least 100 hours or more?
You should go to Rob's website, VP Truth.com and read up on his system. He'll also come to Vegas and teach you his system for FREE!!!
For someone to give you a two letter answer to your question is ridiculous. Rob has a lot of people knocking his system and saying it can't work. These are all advantage players for the most part. Yet, I've never heard of one of them ever trying his system to prove it one way or the other. Rob on the other hand, claims that he's made hundreds of thousands of dollars using his system, and will back it up with W2G's and income tax statements.
What his website won't show you are the multiple bankruptcies he's filed over the years.
Robert Argentino
http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recdocdata
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Levine" <stuckinvegas@...> wrote:
You should go to Rob's website, VP Truth.com and read up on his system. He'll also come to Vegas and teach you his system for FREE!!!
For someone to give you a two letter answer to your question is ridiculous. Rob has a lot of people knocking his system and saying it can't work. These are all advantage players for the most part. Yet, I've never heard of one of them ever trying his system to prove it one way or the other. Rob on the other hand, claims that he's made hundreds of thousands of dollars using his system, and will back it up with W2G's and income tax statements.
Yeah, and all those bankruptcies occurred when he was an Advantage Player. Some "advantage"!
Just came across this piece.
http://brokopp.casinocitytimes.com/articles/46781.html
Is he talking about in that article "5th card flipover" when you throw away, say a 10 of clubs, and instead get a 10 of hearts, for example, instead of the card you need?
If that's what he's talking about, I've noticed that so many times I've indeed become suspicious myself at times. Though I've just dismissed it.
I assume RNGs are indeed random (or at least, if not, that the practicality of taking advantage of algorithm weakness runs into so many millions, that it's really not possible to take advantage of it)
HOWEVER, I myself am depending on the expertise of others and not my own personal experience with applying such tests ...so eh, whatever.
The "5th card flipover" tests Singer is running refers to these three types of dealt hands: two pair, open end straights, and 4 to a flush. The odds are 4/47, 8/47, and 9/47. Is anyone on vpfree doing similar tests? As I recall this was discussed a month or two ago.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "theprostitutionstate" <theprostitutionstate@...> wrote:
Just came across this piece.
http://brokopp.casinocitytimes.com/articles/46781.html
Is he talking about in that article "5th card flipover" when you throw away, say a 10 of clubs, and instead get a 10 of hearts, for example, instead of the card you need?
If that's what he's talking about, I've noticed that so many times I've indeed become suspicious myself at times. Though I've just dismissed it.
I assume RNGs are indeed random (or at least, if not, that the practicality of taking advantage of algorithm weakness runs into so many millions, that it's really not possible to take advantage of it)
HOWEVER, I myself am depending on the expertise of others and not my own personal experience with applying such tests ...so eh, whatever.
i am only aware of one instance of singer doing such tests in the
presence of a skeptic, and the results were indistinguishable from
random chance:
https://www.videopoker.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2249
singer has stated in private email to me that "I've never said or gave
the perception that anyone could go out and experience what I have",
"I have no idea what others will experience or even if it depends on
the type of machine being played", and "the machines are programmed to
run in cycles in addition to their inherent cycles, and I have no idea
where it will be at any given time. Chances are it SHOULD perform
within an acceptable range of how it did for me, but no one has any
true idea at any given time."
in other words, singer is not putting forth a falsifiable hypothesis,
he's simply stating "this once happened to me, and it couldn't have if
the machines are random". he encourages others to try to reproduce his
results, but if they can't, his core message - that he has experienced
something which proves the machines are nonrandom - is unchanged.
it is left to the reader whether to give credence to a single
anecdotal and irreproducible report of something which seems
impossible.
cheers,
five
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, brumar_lv<brumar_lv@yahoo.com> wrote:
The "5th card flipover" tests Singer is running refers to these three types of dealt hands: two pair, open end straights, and 4 to a flush. The odds are 4/47, 8/47, and 9/47. Is anyone on vpfree doing similar tests? As I recall this was discussed a month or two ago.