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5f. Re: Positive ev at the big two

"E.g. I played 50000 coin-in on a 98.5% machine at Harrahs, I would expect to loose $750 but I got diamond status, which gives me..."

I am a little confused by this report, assuming "50000 coin-in" is on a dollar machine, therefore translating to $50,000 of coin-in (which, incidentally, translates to 10 hours at 1000 hands per hour on a single-line dollar machine).

Diamond status currently requires 15000 points, which can most efficiently (cost-wise) be earned with two 2500 point days, each earning 5000 bonus points (or a single 5000 point day, earning 10,000 bonus points). Points are earned at one point per $25 coin-in...

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From: Barry Glazer <b.glazer@att.net>

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Barry, the original poster wrote that he was playing a 98.5% machine probably 9/5 JoB not 9/6 JoB. Therefore the coin-in per point was probably $10 not $25.

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H.F. that was what I was thinking exactly. Basically playing two sessions at $25,000 a piece (and including bonus points), I could achieve Diamond status and all the glorious benefits that comes with that distinction.
Barry’s math is correct by me if I was playing a 9/6 machine at $25/point, it would ONLY cost $625, however, can you make up the difference in comps based on the difference in theo between the two.
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reason I used the 98.5% example is that Bob Dancer mentioned on a recent GWAE that he played most of his vp (for CET properties) at Planet
Hollywood because by his calculations, this casino had machines that would give the best return by their system (theoretical loss, etc. . .). A quick scan of vpfree2 to see which machines Planet Hollywood has that other CET properties don’t have and I theorized he was playing 98.45% JoB. Therefore, if there was a positive play at CET properties, it would probably involve this machine.