Re: Variance for STP-JoB
First, I want to applogize for my previous post. I have spent way more time
playing video poker in the last few years than I have studying statistics.
Cogno is quite correct when he states that standard deviation is the square
root of variance, not the other way around. I should have caught this error
as well as the procedural one.
Second, I want to point out that the calculations I made were based on the
two assumptions of the original poster: A)That variance is the square root
of standard deviation and B)That STP adds 51% to the standard deviation.
Since assumption A is false, the results of my computations were of no value
even though the computations were correct.
Third, I would like to offer the correct procedure with the correct
assumptions. For 9/6 Job the variance is 19.51, so the SD is the square root
of this or 4.417. The SD for Job-STP then is 151% of 4.417 =6.670. The new
variance then is the square of 6.670 or 44.48. This value is close to the
44.50 given in the original post on the topic, but he could not have arrived
there from his stated assumptions.
Fourth, math teachers are often accused of only caring about getting the
correct answer. In fact, the correct answer arrived at by faulty
assumptions/procedures/logic can have disastrous effects on the learning
process. Example: playing 9/6 JoB and drawing a royal flush while holding a
single 10. While there is ( in a rational world) no market for the wrong
answer, the main goal in the math class is logic and procedure.
Fifth, while Cogno made a correct observation regarding my error, he made no
attempt to explain the correct method for obtaining the desired result.
While sarcasm is often amusing ( I often resort to it myself ) it is seldom
constructive.
Sixth, I respect and appreciate the other contributers on this board,
especially the regular ones, like Cogno, who take their time to share with
us.
Thank you, Joel P.
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<waynes@kiwiplan.com?Subject=+Re%3A%20Variance%20for%20STP-JoB> kiwiboy4921
<http://profiles.yahoo.com/kiwiboy4921> Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:45 am (PDT)Cogno is right (if a little sarcastic!). SD is the square root of Variance.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, "Cogno Scienti"
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> Thank goodness you spoke up. All these years I thought standard deviation
> was the square root of variance!
>
> Cogno
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> > Of Joel Prickett
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 5:15 PM
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Variance for STP-JoB
> >
> > I don't want to pick nits, but as a math teacher I can't let an error
> > in
> > formulation stand as public knowledge. Given the 19.51 variance of the
> > base
> > game of JoB, the standard deviation would be the square of 19.51 or
> > 380.64.
> > So if the new standard deviation for STP adds 51% to the original, 151%
> > of
> > 380.64 = 574.77. The new variance is the square root of this amount, or
> > 23.97 and not the 44.50 as stated. The simple way to calculate would be
> > to
> > multiply 19.51 by the square root of 1.51 to obtain the same result.I
> > hope
> > not to ruffle any feathers, but had to speak up. Respectfully, Joel P.
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<http://profiles.yahoo.com/wipiliti> Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:10 am (PDT)I have two comped tickets to see Tony Bennett on Aug. 8, but I don't plan
on staying or playing a lot then. It's a shame what they've done to the VP
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machine that paid over 98.5%....there were none....they used to have some,
but
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<http://profiles.yahoo.com/ehpee123> Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:15 pm (PDT)I never said that a 99% return is good. I said that a 99% return is
playable. If you throw comps, CB, and BB into the equation you can get good
value for your play while still being a small net loser on your gambling.
Like I said before you have to look at the whole package. At Windsor with
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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Caesars Windsor, Canada?
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Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:51 PMWow, I have to express caution on good games defined as less than 100%
TOTAL retrurn. A $1 VP gamber at a liesurely pace is putting through
$3K/hour. You losing $30/hour if E.V. is 99% TOTAL return.
Also, would you believe alchohol reduces E.V. or some other distraction
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, Albert Pearson
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> > I must be going blind or our understanding of the term playable is
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> > To me a playable machine must be at least very close to 99% i.e. 9/7 DB
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> Albert,
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> I totally agree with you. However, what is playable is differenet to
different people. That is why I am constantly chiding posters on here to
quantify their statements that "the machines are totally unplayable"
>
> I see people criticized for playing less than 100% machines. Some claim
that anyone who plays less than 100% should save their money and go to
Vegas, totally disregarding the cost of travel , which has the effect of
making the effective return negative.
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> So, I urge all posters to quantify the term "playabel" like Albert did in
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(PDT)Actually, in the big picture it does have a bearing on video poker, and
everything else we do."Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United
States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives; and,
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that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."
Apparently the latest attempt of those in Congress to exempt themselves
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Subject: [vpFREE] Do You Trust Indian Casinos?I have had MANY private email discussions about VP play at various Indian
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(PDT)That is my same opinion... I feel more comfortable
gambling in Las Vegas,etc. NevadaRichard from Ca.
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