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That's why my original question below also asked if any such contracts had actually been enforced - non-competes are difficult to enforce unless very carefully crafted.

Sounds like the Vegas community doesn't even try - probably several reasons, including ongoing movement of all employees from place to place, perhaps discouraging them from trying to put such a provision on the one employee most likely to cost them if they move, ie, the host. Another reason might be that the customer's loyalty will be more to "how am I being treated lately" and less to "who is my host" - i.e., if the host goes somewhere and the customer can get better treatment there, the customer might move too, but if the host goes somewhere and doesn't have the liberty to comp the customer in the manner they were able to do so when at the original casino, the customer will probably find a new host at the original casino.

I suppose it's "bad form", but there's probably nothing to keep extremes of "stealing" from occurring - e.g., someone goes to another casino and slips a business card to a whale, with a note to "call me, I can do some special things for you at Ambrosia Casino" or something like that -- which may be part of the reason that casinos provide limited-access high-roller rooms for the "real" whales?

--BG

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7a. Re: No Stealing
Date: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT))

In most states, a non compete clause doesn't mean you can't work for some other
company doing the same job, or that you can't inform past clients that you have
moved. It just means you can't directly contact them and "ask" them to come over
to your new company. But informing clients you have moved is all right. Most
states do not disallow your right to make a living.

a few weeks ago i had this exact conversation with one of my
harrah's host, who said that hosts 'take' their players with them all the time.
i was surprised at the answer, so i specifically asked if there was a
non-compete clause. the answer was no.

In a message dated 06/19/08 10:32:31 Eastern Daylight Time, b.glazer@att. net
writes:

> 11b. Re: No Stealing

> Date: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:00 am ((PDT))

>

> At least to me, the amusing part of this whole episode is that casino Hosts

> have been doing exactly the same thing for decades - leaving one property for

> another and taking their player lists with them. The only difference here

> seems to be the volume of names & contact info that was pilfered.

>

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if hosts are required to sign any kind
of agreement not to do this sort of thing, and if so, is it enforceable and has
it been enforced? Other businesses have non-compete clauses, and depending on
how they are structured, can prohibit someone from working in the same field for
another / competing company for a period of time, usually within a geographical
area in which the immediate competition might occur - and some of these have
been found to be enforceable, others have not.

--BG