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Digest Number 1135

Changing where to play video poker in Detroit is like changing deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:48 AM
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Subject: [vpFREE_Detroit] Digest Number 1135

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Re: Digest Number 1132
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

johnnyzee48127

Michael,

I have seen similar comments a dozen times. The ONLY way you can verify this is by actually tracking the data for a while. You need to pick what factor you want to monitor BEFORE you start collecting the data. You can’t change the data collection variable or
the data collection rules in the middle of the data collection. You need to make sure you have the relevent factors in place. So , in your case, I’d suggest the following:

Hypothesis: Number of quads I hit at MGM is less than expected for the game I play.

Acceptance Criteria: If number of quads I hit is less than half the expected value, hypothesis is proven.

Experiment:

Play 2505 hands of 8/5 DDB poker at MGM ( EV of game is 96.8%). Expect to see a quad every 417.5 hands so I should see 6 quads on average. I will get 2 or less quads about 6% of the time. So, if I get 2 or less quads, I suspect something is amiss. If I repeat
the test 3 times and get 2 or less quads each time, I confirm my hypothesis.

Yes, it’s a lot of work but it is the only way to see if there is an issue. It seems like, or I remember getting more quads doesn’t really prove anything except how inaccurate human memory and perception can be.

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Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

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One more thing. The videopoker at MGM stinks. Except for a couple rare exceptions, it has always stunk and probably always will. If you play video poker at MGM for any length of time, you will lose all your money. The math works.

So, maybe you hit a bunch of quads previously, managed to hold on to your bankroll and now that the math is catching up, you think something is wrong. If you play 96% to 98% video poker, you will eventually lose all your money.

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Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:

toomanyslots2

You are right about the crazy drivers on the Detroit freeways, ever since the police stopped patrolling and doing speeding tickets in Detroit it is very dangerous. They love going 90-100 MPH in the slow right lanes, then weaving in and out of all the other
lanes. That’s why several times a week I get up in the morning the local news has another traffic death in Detroit from someone speeding out of control. We go through downtown and over to Canada for most our gambling since it saves us 25% of our losses using
Canadian $'s.

Dave

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Terry,

When Greektown opened up, I played there heavily for a couple years. Then Motor City had some good stuff and I played heavily there for a couple years. MGM had some good stuff back in 2007/2008 and I played heavily there for a year or 2.

It goes in cycles although Greektown’s recent down grades are pretty drastic.

Who knows, it may come back again. Never say never in the casino world