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DIAD ?s

#1

Hi there,

I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try and best explain my specific case.

My past and present:
I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.

I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).

Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:

* Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine, you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off the beaten path, I may well be up for it.

Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not type).

Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
m.

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#2

From what I can remember, Horseshoe Hammond is the best place to get DIAD...a lot of people on these forums don't eff around with DIAD they go straight for 7*...

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@...> wrote:

Hi there,

I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try and best explain my specific case.

My past and present:
I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.

I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).

Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:

* Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine, you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off the beaten path, I may well be up for it.

Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not type).

Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
m.

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#3

Yeah from what I remember, DIAD is for first-time Diamond only, so I'm
pretty sure you're not qualified. Also note the DIAD must be done on a
single property.

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On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 5:04 PM, m h <kickboyface@yahoo.com> wrote:

**

Hi there,

I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know
much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try
and best explain my specific case.

My past and present:
I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended
period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had
expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of
about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from
table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.

I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly
familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).

Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:

* Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied
RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine,
you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are
similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could
this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D
brick road earlier in my life?

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse
or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel
pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off
the beaten path, I may well be up for it.

Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are
welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the
list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not
type).

Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
m.

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#4

NSUD's in New Orleans but Hammond in January is so invigorating.

That's a good question on a property that is diamond friendly.

We did 7* last year and their offers have been terrible. Used to be $400 enticements now under $100. All in less than 2 years. Times have changed for 7* rated. I don't know about first level diamonds. Was third level "secret rated" diamond in 2009-2010.

The november "seven stars insider" newsletter is a good read. Having to travel outside of Nevada to do diamond - sigh.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@...> wrote:

Hi there,

I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try and best explain my specific case.

My past and present:
I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.

I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).

Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:

* Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine, you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off the beaten path, I may well be up for it.

Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not type).

Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
m.

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#5

I have never done DIAD, but my understanding is that it is not available to CURRENT Diamond/7* members.

You should ask at the club you plan to earn the points at, but I believe you can do DIAD....

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@...> wrote:

NSUD's in New Orleans but Hammond in January is so invigorating.

That's a good question on a property that is diamond friendly.

We did 7* last year and their offers have been terrible. Used to be $400 enticements now under $100. All in less than 2 years. Times have changed for 7* rated. I don't know about first level diamonds. Was third level "secret rated" diamond in 2009-2010.

The november "seven stars insider" newsletter is a good read. Having to travel outside of Nevada to do diamond - sigh.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try and best explain my specific case.
>
> My past and present:
> I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.
>
> I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).
>
> Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:
>
> * Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine, you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.
>
> * I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?
>
> * Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?
>
> Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off the beaten path, I may well be up for it.
>
> Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not type).
>
> Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
> m.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#6

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

I received DIAD a couple of different times in the past 10 years. It is not a once in a lifetime event. I think I am still in my same
lifetime. I do plan to do it again in January or Feb.

Carol

#7

My understanding is the same as the poster's below. You cannot do DIAD in consecutive years.

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: ahduff@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:06:47 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD ?s

I have never done DIAD, but my understanding is that it is not available to CURRENT Diamond/7* members.

You should ask at the club you plan to earn the points at, but I believe you can do DIAD....

>
> NSUD's in New Orleans but Hammond in January is so invigorating.
>
> That's a good question on a property that is diamond friendly.
>
> We did 7* last year and their offers have been terrible. Used to be $400 enticements now under $100. All in less than 2 years. Times have changed for 7* rated. I don't know about first level diamonds. Was third level "secret rated" diamond in 2009-2010.
>
> The november "seven stars insider" newsletter is a good read. Having to travel outside of Nevada to do diamond - sigh.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try and best explain my specific case.
> >
> > My past and present:
> > I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.
> >
> > I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).
> >
> > Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:
> >
> > * Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine, you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.
> >
> > * I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?
> >
> > * Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?
> >
> > Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off the beaten path, I may well be up for it.
> >
> > Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not type).
> >
> > Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
> > m.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@...> wrote:
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@> wrote:

#8

Diamond in a Day only ups your tier level for the rest of the current TR earnings year....if you earn Diamond the regular way you get your status for the rest of the current year and the entire next year as well. If you already have Diamond then earning 3,000 points in one day gives you nothing you don't already have. The best time to earn DIAD is the first week of January each year...that gives you a 15 months of status for your play. If you earn DIAD on 12/31 it only gives you 3 months of status for your play.

For example, if you are a gold member today (12/5/11) and earn 3,000 base TR points in one day you get moved immediately to Diamond but it is good only until 3/31/12. If you go over 11,000 points by 12/31/11 then your status is good until 3/31/13.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "maclarenv12" <ahduff@...> wrote:

I have never done DIAD, but my understanding is that it is not available to CURRENT Diamond/7* members.

You should ask at the club you plan to earn the points at, but I believe you can do DIAD....

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@> wrote:
>
> NSUD's in New Orleans but Hammond in January is so invigorating.
>
> That's a good question on a property that is diamond friendly.
>
> We did 7* last year and their offers have been terrible. Used to be $400 enticements now under $100. All in less than 2 years. Times have changed for 7* rated. I don't know about first level diamonds. Was third level "secret rated" diamond in 2009-2010.
>
> The november "seven stars insider" newsletter is a good read. Having to travel outside of Nevada to do diamond - sigh.
>
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have some Caesars (C) Diamond in a Day (DIAD) questions, but don't know much about that world as I should so I'll lay what I can out here to try and best explain my specific case.
> >
> > My past and present:
> > I was a Diamond (D) the old-fashioned way (video poker, over an extended period of time) but let it lapse this year. The last valid D card I had expired in 3/11. Right this second I have a Rewards Credit (RC) Balance of about 25K points and a tier score of about 3K (most of that would be from table poker). The C web-site says this puts me 1K tier points off Platinum.
> >
> > I'm assuming it's still best to do DIAD in January (I'm also overly familiar with the beyond-awesome VPfree2 casino listings).
> >
> > Given this, I would like ANY help or guidance with the following:
> >
> > * Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs? Seems like if you're going to feed a negative expectation machine, you might as well get as many RCs as you can for it.
> >
> > * I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?
> >
> > * Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?
> >
> > Do note that I live in Vegas and that as a lark I'm willing to travel pretty much anywhere in the C system to do this. If there's something off the beaten path, I may well be up for it.
> >
> > Any and all responses (even just educated guesses or hunches) are welcome. Feel free to email me directly if you'd rather not post to the list (I can also send you my phone number if you'd rather talk and not type).
> >
> > Thanks for reading, a prosperous New Year to you all,
> > m.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

#9

If you already have a Diamond Card earning Diamond in a Day give you nothing as it's only good for the current year...a year in which you are already Diamond. You cannot use Diamond in a Day to renew your status for the following year...but you can let your Diamond Status expire and then re-earn Diamond in a Day.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "carolm60656" <karolam@...> wrote:

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

I received DIAD a couple of different times in the past 10 years. It is not a once in a lifetime event. I think I am still in my same
lifetime. I do plan to do it again in January or Feb.

Carol

#10

FWIW: Both of the responses below might mot be accurate.

This has been our experience. If you earn DIAD during December
it will be good for the following year. You should have Diamond status from that day in December through March 31, 2013.

Also, we have done DIAD more than once on the same card. I do
not remember if it ever has been DIAD back to back. we analyze
my wife's position each year going into December . Last year
she was about 4,000 points away from Diamond. It would be only
3,000 tier points if we went to Laughlin and did DIAD.

We did it! It has probably the 3rd time she has done DIAD. She
has been a Diamond card holder using either the year method, or
DIAD since her first year, which was probably 2006. Her first
Daimond card was definitely DIAD in Laughlin!

As I said, maybe she has never did DIAD back to back. Maybe she
would not have been allowed to do DIAD back to back in Laughlin.
Maybe we were just "lucky". My point is that the key is to ask!

I am relaying our experience. Do your own research with the casino
of your preference before making a decision. We first would verify
if she was permitted. Each time they looked at her current card
and said yes. It was always emphasized that the play must be done midnight to midnight.

In Laughlin, we have been permitted to use multiple cards to earn DIAD. They issued us 4 cards. Both couples were standing in front
of the Reward Center when asking this question. We all successfully contributed to the DIAD requirement without any trouble.

I am not pretending to know the answers. These are not exaggerations
or guesses. I am relaying our experiences at this one Harrahs casino.

One additional benefit of my wife's DIAD efforts in Laughlin is
that the following year she has received numberous offers from Lauglin. It was because of one relatively large play day ($30,000 play in video poker).

Good luck,

Bob

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If you already have a Diamond Card earning Diamond in a Day give you nothing as it's only good for the current year...a year in which you are already Diamond. You cannot use Diamond in a Day to renew your status for the following year...but you can let your Diamond Status expire and then re-earn Diamond in a Day.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpbp2002" <21mail@...> wrote:

If you already have a Diamond Card earning Diamond in a Day give you nothing as it's only good for the current year...a year in which you are already Diamond. You cannot use Diamond in a Day to renew your status for the following year...but you can let your Diamond Status expire and then re-earn Diamond in a Day.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "carolm60656" <karolam@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> * I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?
>
>
> I received DIAD a couple of different times in the past 10 years. It is not a once in a lifetime event. I think I am still in my same
> lifetime. I do plan to do it again in January or Feb.
>
> Carol
>

#11

maybe you can't now, but i'm pretty sure i did DIAD in consecutive
years 3-4 years ago, and i did it again last year.

to the original poster: no matter what advice you get from online
forums, before you go putting in tens of thousands in action on a -EV
game in the hopes of increased status, ask the booth to make sure
you'll actually get it. and get the name of the boothling you talked
to. ideally a supervisor.

good luck,

five

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On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:29 AM, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@hotmail.com> wrote:

My understanding is the same as the poster's below. You cannot do DIAD in consecutive years.

#12

You most likely could have since some properties seem to interpret the rules differently or don't follow them.

But as you say in your second paragraph, you should always check with Total Rewards on the day you are going to do DIAD and try to do it before the desk closes for the day.

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: fivespot55@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:46:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD ?s

> My understanding is the same as the poster's below. You cannot do DIAD in consecutive years.

maybe you can't now, but i'm pretty sure i did DIAD in consecutive
years 3-4 years ago, and i did it again last year.

to the original poster: no matter what advice you get from online
forums, before you go putting in tens of thousands in action on a -EV
game in the hopes of increased status, ask the booth to make sure
you'll actually get it. and get the name of the boothling you talked
to. ideally a supervisor.

good luck,

five

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On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:29 AM, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@hotmail.com> wrote:

#13

That first statement is correct--did DIAD last Wednesday at the Rio, card does expire in March 2013...between the Star Trek slots after the buffet in the morning, to the more important (and less negative expectation than I deserved, definitely),Video Poker at night, hit the magic 3,000 in a day for the fancy card. Actually went from Gold to Platinum (2,000 in a day), to Diamond inside of about 3 hours. In hindsight, it was a very, very stupid thing to do, but one hand of four deuces and a four helped even things out. At any rate, the other commenters are correct, check with a boothling before you try this--I did the night before, and was told "And your 3,000 points (worth of play) have to done steadily--(they actually said this!!)--you can't gamble for a while, then take a an hour or two off and then gamble again." (Have learned not with arguing with these people and others about things like the definition of a day, etc.). Anyhow, because the Rio was charging me 12$ a night for a room only stayed there 3 nights, hit that on my second last day, so I only visited the Diamond Lounge once, on my last night when I printed out my boarding pass. Others have said this, nice appetizers, free drinks, NFL net on TV, not bad, but definitely not worth the money I should have lost trying to chase this. Anyhow, hopefully Caesars can spring for a free room or two for me next year LOLOL!

Seriously thanks again to all the pointers/advice/information that you all have provided over the year, it definitely helped me with the journey!!!

Happy New Year!!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@...> wrote:

FWIW: Both of the responses below might mot be accurate.

This has been our experience. If you earn DIAD during December
it will be good for the following year. You should have Diamond status from that day in December through March 31, 2013.

Also, we have done DIAD more than once on the same card. I do
not remember if it ever has been DIAD back to back. we analyze
my wife's position each year going into December . Last year
she was about 4,000 points away from Diamond. It would be only
3,000 tier points if we went to Laughlin and did DIAD.

We did it! It has probably the 3rd time she has done DIAD. She
has been a Diamond card holder using either the year method, or
DIAD since her first year, which was probably 2006. Her first
Daimond card was definitely DIAD in Laughlin!

As I said, maybe she has never did DIAD back to back. Maybe she
would not have been allowed to do DIAD back to back in Laughlin.
Maybe we were just "lucky". My point is that the key is to ask!

I am relaying our experience. Do your own research with the casino
of your preference before making a decision. We first would verify
if she was permitted. Each time they looked at her current card
and said yes. It was always emphasized that the play must be done midnight to midnight.

In Laughlin, we have been permitted to use multiple cards to earn DIAD. They issued us 4 cards. Both couples were standing in front
of the Reward Center when asking this question. We all successfully contributed to the DIAD requirement without any trouble.

I am not pretending to know the answers. These are not exaggerations
or guesses. I am relaying our experiences at this one Harrahs casino.

One additional benefit of my wife's DIAD efforts in Laughlin is
that the following year she has received numberous offers from Lauglin. It was because of one relatively large play day ($30,000 play in video poker).

Good luck,

Bob

> If you already have a Diamond Card earning Diamond in a Day give you nothing as it's only good for the current year...a year in which you are already Diamond. You cannot use Diamond in a Day to renew your status for the following year...but you can let your Diamond Status expire and then re-earn Diamond in a Day.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpbp2002" <21mail@> wrote:
>
> If you already have a Diamond Card earning Diamond in a Day give you nothing as it's only good for the current year...a year in which you are already Diamond. You cannot use Diamond in a Day to renew your status for the following year...but you can let your Diamond Status expire and then re-earn Diamond in a Day.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "carolm60656" <karolam@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?
> >
> >
> > I received DIAD a couple of different times in the past 10 years. It is not a once in a lifetime event. I think I am still in my same
> > lifetime. I do plan to do it again in January or Feb.
> >
> > Carol
> >
>

#14

Hi there,

I'm typing to your from the Diamond Lounge in Lake Tahoe, having just completed my DIAD. I wanted to pass along everything I've learned as 'net fodder in the future.

* "Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs?"

sector7up2 said that Harrah's Rincon has multiplier days, which is true. There are other C properties that do as well ... The best place to look for these is under something similar to a "Promotions/Events" tab off the main page of any given C property you're interested in.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

vpbp2002, Dean Nishima and carolm60656 have all achieved D status with combinations of DIAD and "normal" Diamond (ND) earnings. I just earned DIAD having had ND before. No problems. No questions.

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

The answer to this remains unclear to me. The one thing that was painfully obvious was Harrah's Rincon was far more familiar and conversant on DIAD than Harrah's Lake Tahoe ... That MIGHT, however, be due to the booth staff's far greater command of the English language in Rincon.

My DIAD experience follows for anyone who might be interested.

After searching the VPFREE2 database, much fiddling with Wolf Video Poker software, and coincident travel plans, I decided to head to Harrah's Lake Tahoe for DIAD. Roughly speaking I figured there awas a 2/3 chance that I would lose less than $1K (including winning in that number).

Calling the slot club, they had no problem telling me that the slot day went from 06:30 - 06:30 daily.

I went to the Rewards desk (TRD) today and there was some confusion ... When I asked about DIAD, I was directed to a slot host -- apparently the booth staffer was thinking that I wanted to be granted a Diamond pass for the day. After talking to the host -who noticeably recoiled after seeing my most recent play- I went back to the TRD who informed me what I already thought I knew ... 3K tier credits would get me DIAD.

I plunked myself down with my girlfriend to a $1 JoB 3-play. My girlfriend and I split the same machine both for companionship and to help ensure fewer mistakes as we played. Here are the sequential milestones of the session (the $ numbers are my overall standing at the moment of the hand being dealt).

* 4 9s dealt. +$48
* 4 4s. +$480
* 4 7s. +$450
* 4 Ks. +$515
* 4 As. +$545
* 4 As. +$525
* 900 base points. even.
* -$100 @997 base points.
* -$200 @1053 base points.
* 4 8s. -$145
* 4th 7 dealt to 2 different hands. +$155
* 4 7s dealt. +$410
* 1500 base points -- half way to DIAD. +$390
* 4 Ks. +$275.
* 4 6s. +$350.
* 2000 base points -- 2/3 to DIAD. +$180
* Straight flush. +$470
* 2319 base points. even.
* 4 7s. -$25
* -$300 @2605 base points.
* -$400 @2644 base points.
* -$500 @2665 base points.
* -$600 @2754 base points.
* -$700 @2805 base points.
* -$800 @2853 base points.
* 4 8s. -$630
* 3000 base points. -$755. DIAD achieved.

Elapsed time: almost exactly three hours.

Tough end on a rollercoaster session. Those last 700 base points essentially costed me a buck apiece.

(For the record, during this session I made decisions on 2000 dealt hands and had three mistakes that my GF and I know of. At one point I held KQs when there was a 77 on the board (all hands happened to pay on my mistake draw). On another I held a K only when there was also a suited T on the board. On another I played suited QJ instead of holding TJQK.)

I marched back to the booth and was given a D card with an expiration stating 3/12. My understanding -which may not be correct- is this card will be renewed with a card stating expiration on 3/13 when I replace it later this year (if this turns out NOT to be the case, I'll tap the list). It was extremely difficult to get a precise understanding because the booth person's English explanations were far from clear and precise.

Now armed with a D card, I trooped back to the host and asked for a room and buffet comp. This was followed by a lot of typing (maybe 10 minutes worth) ... the host gave me a super-nice room, but no buffet.

For what it's worth,
m.

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#15

mh- I enjoyed reading your report.
Thank you for sharing.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@...> wrote:

Hi there,

I'm typing to your from the Diamond Lounge in Lake Tahoe, having just completed my DIAD. I wanted to pass along everything I've learned as 'net fodder in the future.

* "Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs?"

sector7up2 said that Harrah's Rincon has multiplier days, which is true. There are other C properties that do as well ... The best place to look for these is under something similar to a "Promotions/Events" tab off the main page of any given C property you're interested in.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

vpbp2002, Dean Nishima and carolm60656 have all achieved D status with combinations of DIAD and "normal" Diamond (ND) earnings. I just earned DIAD having had ND before. No problems. No questions.

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

The answer to this remains unclear to me. The one thing that was painfully obvious was Harrah's Rincon was far more familiar and conversant on DIAD than Harrah's Lake Tahoe ... That MIGHT, however, be due to the booth staff's far greater command of the English language in Rincon.

My DIAD experience follows for anyone who might be interested.

After searching the VPFREE2 database, much fiddling with Wolf Video Poker software, and coincident travel plans, I decided to head to Harrah's Lake Tahoe for DIAD. Roughly speaking I figured there awas a 2/3 chance that I would lose less than $1K (including winning in that number).

Calling the slot club, they had no problem telling me that the slot day went from 06:30 - 06:30 daily.

I went to the Rewards desk (TRD) today and there was some confusion ... When I asked about DIAD, I was directed to a slot host -- apparently the booth staffer was thinking that I wanted to be granted a Diamond pass for the day. After talking to the host -who noticeably recoiled after seeing my most recent play- I went back to the TRD who informed me what I already thought I knew ... 3K tier credits would get me DIAD.

I plunked myself down with my girlfriend to a $1 JoB 3-play. My girlfriend and I split the same machine both for companionship and to help ensure fewer mistakes as we played. Here are the sequential milestones of the session (the $ numbers are my overall standing at the moment of the hand being dealt).

* 4 9s dealt. +$48
* 4 4s. +$480
* 4 7s. +$450
* 4 Ks. +$515
* 4 As. +$545
* 4 As. +$525
* 900 base points. even.
* -$100 @997 base points.
* -$200 @1053 base points.
* 4 8s. -$145
* 4th 7 dealt to 2 different hands. +$155
* 4 7s dealt. +$410
* 1500 base points -- half way to DIAD. +$390
* 4 Ks. +$275.
* 4 6s. +$350.
* 2000 base points -- 2/3 to DIAD. +$180
* Straight flush. +$470
* 2319 base points. even.
* 4 7s. -$25
* -$300 @2605 base points.
* -$400 @2644 base points.
* -$500 @2665 base points.
* -$600 @2754 base points.
* -$700 @2805 base points.
* -$800 @2853 base points.
* 4 8s. -$630
* 3000 base points. -$755. DIAD achieved.

Elapsed time: almost exactly three hours.

Tough end on a rollercoaster session. Those last 700 base points essentially costed me a buck apiece.

(For the record, during this session I made decisions on 2000 dealt hands and had three mistakes that my GF and I know of. At one point I held KQs when there was a 77 on the board (all hands happened to pay on my mistake draw). On another I held a K only when there was also a suited T on the board. On another I played suited QJ instead of holding TJQK.)

I marched back to the booth and was given a D card with an expiration stating 3/12. My understanding -which may not be correct- is this card will be renewed with a card stating expiration on 3/13 when I replace it later this year (if this turns out NOT to be the case, I'll tap the list). It was extremely difficult to get a precise understanding because the booth person's English explanations were far from clear and precise.

Now armed with a D card, I trooped back to the host and asked for a room and buffet comp. This was followed by a lot of typing (maybe 10 minutes worth) ... the host gave me a super-nice room, but no buffet.

For what it's worth,
m.

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#16

mh- forgot to ask, did you both play the 3-line game with the speed on high?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, m h <kickboyface@...> wrote:

Hi there,

I'm typing to your from the Diamond Lounge in Lake Tahoe, having just completed my DIAD. I wanted to pass along everything I've learned as 'net fodder in the future.

* "Are there (or will there be) any C casinos that offer bonus/multiplied RCs?"

sector7up2 said that Harrah's Rincon has multiplier days, which is true. There are other C properties that do as well ... The best place to look for these is under something similar to a "Promotions/Events" tab off the main page of any given C property you're interested in.

* I've read statements (although I can't dig any up this second) that are similar to "DIAD is for new D members only." If this is still true, could this mean that I would not be eligible since I've already lived on the D brick road earlier in my life?

vpbp2002, Dean Nishima and carolm60656 have all achieved D status with combinations of DIAD and "normal" Diamond (ND) earnings. I just earned DIAD having had ND before. No problems. No questions.

* Are there any of the C casinos (or hosts) that seem to be better/worse or more welcoming/hostile toward people doing DIAD?

The answer to this remains unclear to me. The one thing that was painfully obvious was Harrah's Rincon was far more familiar and conversant on DIAD than Harrah's Lake Tahoe ... That MIGHT, however, be due to the booth staff's far greater command of the English language in Rincon.

My DIAD experience follows for anyone who might be interested.

After searching the VPFREE2 database, much fiddling with Wolf Video Poker software, and coincident travel plans, I decided to head to Harrah's Lake Tahoe for DIAD. Roughly speaking I figured there awas a 2/3 chance that I would lose less than $1K (including winning in that number).

Calling the slot club, they had no problem telling me that the slot day went from 06:30 - 06:30 daily.

I went to the Rewards desk (TRD) today and there was some confusion ... When I asked about DIAD, I was directed to a slot host -- apparently the booth staffer was thinking that I wanted to be granted a Diamond pass for the day. After talking to the host -who noticeably recoiled after seeing my most recent play- I went back to the TRD who informed me what I already thought I knew ... 3K tier credits would get me DIAD.

I plunked myself down with my girlfriend to a $1 JoB 3-play. My girlfriend and I split the same machine both for companionship and to help ensure fewer mistakes as we played. Here are the sequential milestones of the session (the $ numbers are my overall standing at the moment of the hand being dealt).

* 4 9s dealt. +$48
* 4 4s. +$480
* 4 7s. +$450
* 4 Ks. +$515
* 4 As. +$545
* 4 As. +$525
* 900 base points. even.
* -$100 @997 base points.
* -$200 @1053 base points.
* 4 8s. -$145
* 4th 7 dealt to 2 different hands. +$155
* 4 7s dealt. +$410
* 1500 base points -- half way to DIAD. +$390
* 4 Ks. +$275.
* 4 6s. +$350.
* 2000 base points -- 2/3 to DIAD. +$180
* Straight flush. +$470
* 2319 base points. even.
* 4 7s. -$25
* -$300 @2605 base points.
* -$400 @2644 base points.
* -$500 @2665 base points.
* -$600 @2754 base points.
* -$700 @2805 base points.
* -$800 @2853 base points.
* 4 8s. -$630
* 3000 base points. -$755. DIAD achieved.

Elapsed time: almost exactly three hours.

Tough end on a rollercoaster session. Those last 700 base points essentially costed me a buck apiece.

(For the record, during this session I made decisions on 2000 dealt hands and had three mistakes that my GF and I know of. At one point I held KQs when there was a 77 on the board (all hands happened to pay on my mistake draw). On another I held a K only when there was also a suited T on the board. On another I played suited QJ instead of holding TJQK.)

I marched back to the booth and was given a D card with an expiration stating 3/12. My understanding -which may not be correct- is this card will be renewed with a card stating expiration on 3/13 when I replace it later this year (if this turns out NOT to be the case, I'll tap the list). It was extremely difficult to get a precise understanding because the booth person's English explanations were far from clear and precise.

Now armed with a D card, I trooped back to the host and asked for a room and buffet comp. This was followed by a lot of typing (maybe 10 minutes worth) ... the host gave me a super-nice room, but no buffet.

For what it's worth,
m.

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#17

I have many W2G's from last year - my accountant always lists them separately on the electronic return.

Does anyone know if this is necessary? Can you just put in the gross amount and keep the W2G paper copies as reference?
I know there are people who have a heck of a lot more of them than I do, and I can't imagine those being listed separately.

Or does anyone know where to look to find this out?

Thanks!
Valerie

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#18

If there's more than 30, you cannot e-file them,
you list the lump sum, if there's less than 30,
you can list them and e-file. E-filing helps
when the IRS does income document matching to
make sure you didn't miss a W-2G. With a lump
sum, they might come back if the numbers don't match up, even if your're right.

Ernie Mayhorn, EA

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At 07:35 AM 1/18/2012, you wrote:

I have many W2G's from last year - my accountant
always lists them separately on the electronic return.

Does anyone know if this is necessary? Can you
just put in the gross amount and keep the W2G paper copies as reference?
I know there are people who have a heck of a lot
more of them than I do, and I can't imagine those being listed separately.

Or does anyone know where to look to find this out?

Thanks!
Valerie

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#19

I have many W2G's from last year - my accountant always lists them separately on the electronic return.

Does anyone know if this is necessary? Can you just put in the gross amount and keep the W2G paper copies as reference?
I know there are people who have a heck of a lot more of them than I do, and I can't imagine those being listed separately.

Or does anyone know where to look to find this out?

Thanks!
Valerie

This is probably one of the many areas where it doesn't matter, so you
might as well do what's easiest. I've known many people who have been
asked by the IRS why they put a total figure of W-2gs that's less than
what casinos reported to them, but I've never heard of anyone even
being asked why they put a total figure, as I've done for almost 30
years, rather than list them separately. I did someone's taxes a few
years ago electronically, though, and I recall not being able to put a
total figure, so I listed them separately.

#20

interesting i didn't know you could list the total amount. i been doing it the long way listing all w2g. also i was wondering if there is a limit to how much you can deduct as losses.

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>I have many W2G's from last year - my accountant always lists them separately on the electronic return.
>
>Does anyone know if this is necessary? Can you just put in the gross amount and keep the W2G paper copies as reference?
>I know there are people who have a heck of a lot more of them than I do, and I can't imagine those being listed separately.
>
>Or does anyone know where to look to find this out?
>
>Thanks!
>Valerie

This is probably one of the many areas where it doesn't matter, so you
might as well do what's easiest. I've known many people who have been
asked by the IRS why they put a total figure of W-2gs that's less than
what casinos reported to them, but I've never heard of anyone even
being asked why they put a total figure, as I've done for almost 30
years, rather than list them separately. I did someone's taxes a few
years ago electronically, though, and I recall not being able to put a
total figure, so I listed them separately.