I'm finally getting around to learning Deuces Wild and I have a question
about one of the holds regarding aces. In the hand : Ad Kd Qs 8s 2s, the
correct hold is 2s. I assume this is the result of a penalty card. So
now I have three questions, (1).What is the penalty card? I suspect it
is the 8. (2).Why is it a penalty card?, and (3).What other cards in
the deck would be considered penalty cards in this hand? I have a Basic
Strategy Sheet that lists 2 AdKd as a possible hold.
Thanks. Dick McK.
Deuces.
The Qs is a straight penalty. Any 2AH can only be held when there are no flush or straight penalties. There are several other conditions which are ignored by some, followed by others. They are
2AK -- no 3, 45, or 46 and 0 penalties
2AQ -- no 34, 35 or 36 and 0 penalties
2AJ -- no 34 or 35s and 0 penalties
2A10 -- no 34s and 0 penalties
Of course, these rules only apply to FPDW. NSU has very different plays.
B
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At 01:19 PM 11/16/2003, you wrote:
I'm finally getting around to learning Deuces Wild and I have a question
about one of the holds regarding aces. In the hand : Ad Kd Qs 8s 2s, the
correct hold is 2s. I assume this is the result of a penalty card. So
now I have three questions, (1).What is the penalty card? I suspect it
is the 8. (2).Why is it a penalty card?, and (3).What other cards in
the deck would be considered penalty cards in this hand? I have a Basic
Strategy Sheet that lists 2 AdKd as a possible hold.
Thanks. Dick McK.
Richard Mckenna wrote:
I'm finally getting around to learning Deuces Wild and I have a
question about one of the holds regarding aces. In the hand : Ad Kd
Qs 8s 2s, the correct hold is 2s. I assume this is the result of a
penalty card. So now I have three questions, ...
Dick,
Your post prompts a couple of general comments on the subject of
learning a new game strategy and penalty card considerations. I hope
you won't mind my interjecting them into this thread.
When I'm tackling a new game, I'm inclined to ignore penalty card
situations until my accuracy reflects an error cost of no more than
.05% (which on a $.25 game at 800 hph is a error cost of $.50/hr.
Until that point, the typical .01% additional accuracy gained through
correct penalty card decisions is relatively insignificant.
Trying to learn and account for penalty card strategy in your early
practice is simply too much a distraction from basic strategy and can
result errors in that strategy which greatly overwhelm the benefit of
nailing penalty card holds.
Frankly, I consider learning penalty card rules a luxury. There are
some games, such as All American, where I've yet to achieve
proficiency to the point that I have any interest in dealing with
penalty cards.
On the other hand, when I found it difficult to really hone my
concentration in learning DB and continued to make sufficient gaffes
that I plateaued at a .20% error cost, I tackled the more frequent
penalty card situations and found that this focused my game; my
accuracy soared.
But on no account do I consider there to be a sufficient economic
benefit to concentrating on penalty cards until I've really nailed the
game.
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When learning a game with Winpoker practice, the most expedient means
by which to ignore penalty card situations is to simply blow right by
errors classified as "minor". Of course, there are going to be a few
basic strategy errors that slip by that way.
Frugal VP addresses this situation in an optimal way by offering the
option to practice in "Strategy Mode" or "Perfect Play" mode.
"Strategy Mode" will only flag those errors that violate basic
strategy and ignores penalty situations with perfection. Perfect Play
awaits those who really want to tackle those pesky penalty cards.
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As a footnote: There are those who prefer to tackle penalty cards
right up front and get considerable satisfaction from doing so. In
that case, they're clearly benefiting from that decision. However,
unless you're acing strategy right from the get-go it's probably best
to ignore penalties.
- Harry