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Defective Meter Rate on Progressives

#1

I don't know how many times this has happened to me, but it's a significant number. I can remember exactly where I was and when.

I sit down at a bank or bar full of linked progressives, by myself, and start to clock the meter rate. It's usually simple, run $20 coin-in through the machine and note how much the jackpot went up.

But once in a while, I'm in like $18, and it has not gone up even ONE penny! And I'm thinking, "What kinda tightass deal is THIS?" Over time, I have learned that if this happens with the first machine I try, I move to the next machine and try it all over again. Almost without fail the second machine rises normally. So essentially, I probably picked the ONLY machine in the bank that was defective to start my tracking. And this has happened to me a lot.

Do you suppose this is by accident? Or should I be paranoid and start thinking that some casinos do this frequently on purpose, leaving one (or more) machines in a bank that will never add to the meter rise. I don't know why they would do that.

Like I said, I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me, which just seems odd and unlikely.

#2

That happened to me at Foxwoods once. I called over a slot attendant, who then called over a suit. The suit called over three more suits. Then finally someone took his head out of, well, you know where it was, and they called over a slot technician, who actually could do something about it. It took a while, and two more techs, with the bottoms of the machines opened up with modems, routes and who knows what else being plugged, unplugged and re-plugged, before it finally got fixed.

The interesting thing was that the progressive jumped up by over $800 instantly as it apparently had stored the info, but just wasn't able to transmit it.

Guru

P.S. No, I didn't hit it ; (

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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
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From: Bob Bartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:29 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Defective Meter Rate on Progressives

I don't know how many times this has happened to me, but it's a significant number. I can remember exactly where I was and when.

I sit down at a bank or bar full of linked progressives, by myself, and start to clock the meter rate. It's usually simple, run $20 coin-in through the machine and note how much the jackpot went up.

But once in a while, I'm in like $18, and it has not gone up even ONE penny! And I'm thinking, "What kinda tightass deal is THIS?" Over time, I have learned that if this happens with the first machine I try, I move to the next machine and try it all over again. Almost without fail the second machine rises normally. So essentially, I probably picked the ONLY machine in the bank that was defective to start my tracking. And this has happened to me a lot.

Do you suppose this is by accident? Or should I be paranoid and start thinking that some casinos do this frequently on purpose, leaving one (or more) machines in a bank that will never add to the meter rise. I don't know why they would do that.

Like I said, I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me, which just seems odd and unlikely.

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#3

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The interesting thing was that the progressive jumped up by over $800 instantly as it apparently had stored the info, but just wasn't able to transmit it.

Thank you for that, that is VERY interesting. I never would have thought of that. VERY, interesting!

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#4

Wonder what the payoff would have been had someone "hit" while the $800
was not registering.

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On Jun 25, 2013 10:18 PM, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@yahoo.com> wrote:

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> The interesting thing was that the progressive jumped up by over $800
instantly as it apparently had stored the info, but just wasn't able to
transmit it.
>

Thank you for that, that is VERY interesting. I never would have thought
of that. VERY, interesting!

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#5

An interesting question. I noticed the fact that the meter had not progressed from the previous day, when I'd arrived at FW. That's why I called it to someone's attention, and the circus began. But because the data had not transmitted, I suspect it would have been paid at the lower figure. But that's mere speculation, with obviously no way to ascertain what would actually have happened.

Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

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From: Rprosdc <rprosdc@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Defective Meter Rate on Progressives

Wonder what the payoff would have been had someone "hit" while the $800
was not registering.
On Jun 25, 2013 10:18 PM, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@yahoo.com> wrote:

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> The interesting thing was that the progressive jumped up by over $800
instantly as it apparently had stored the info, but just wasn't able to
transmit it.
>

Thank you for that, that is VERY interesting. I never would have thought
of that. VERY, interesting!

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#6

Off the top of my head, I remember this happening at Sunset Station, Terrible's, Santa Fe Station, Red Rock, and Table Mountain in Fresno. There's been others that I cannot remember at the moment. I wonder if they all had "hidden" treasures in their electronics.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:

An interesting question. I noticed the fact that the meter had not progressed from the previous day, when I'd arrived at FW. That's why I called it to someone's attention, and the circus began. But because the data had not transmitted, I suspect it would have been paid at the lower figure. But that's mere speculation, with obviously no way to ascertain what would actually have happened.

#7

T'is pure speculation whaz dey do. You could ask the tribes gaming commission...... Have a non-gambling friend call :slight_smile:

Whaz I look for is NOT stuck progressives, (just walk away from 'em) rather those not reset after (modest) jackpots. Sometimes, I like to think floor mgmt makes a decision to not reset as they are having a good day.

Ever see progressives not reset at FW/MS? Meself only in Nevada.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:

An interesting question. I noticed the fact that the meter had not progressed from the previous day, when I'd arrived at FW. That's why I called it to someone's attention, and the circus began. But because the data had not transmitted, I suspect it would have been paid at the lower figure. But that's mere speculation, with obviously no way to ascertain what would actually have happened.

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Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

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From: Rprosdc <rprosdc@...>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Defective Meter Rate on Progressives

Wonder what the payoff would have been had someone "hit" while the $800
was not registering.
On Jun 25, 2013 10:18 PM, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > The interesting thing was that the progressive jumped up by over $800
> instantly as it apparently had stored the info, but just wasn't able to
> transmit it.
> >
>
> Thank you for that, that is VERY interesting. I never would have thought
> of that. VERY, interesting!
>
>Â
>

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#8

Since Foxwoods upgraded its DDB to 9/6 at (almost) every machine, I have avoided the progressives which only pay 9/5. But just for a goof, I do look at what seems to be the only remaining progressive $1 bank, in Grand Cedar, and it usually is only around $4100 or so. I did notice it was, I believe, $4500 or so on Monday, but I avoided it anyway in favor of the 9/6.

Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

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From: Dave <haaljo@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:02 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Defective Meter Rate on Progressives

T'is pure speculation whaz dey do. You could ask the tribes gaming commission...... Have a non-gambling friend call :slight_smile:

Whaz I look for is NOT stuck progressives, (just walk away from 'em) rather those not reset after (modest) jackpots. Sometimes, I like to think floor mgmt makes a decision to not reset as they are having a good day.

Ever see progressives not reset at FW/MS? Meself only in Nevada.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:

An interesting question. I noticed the fact that the meter had not progressed from the previous day, when I'd arrived at FW. That's why I called it to someone's attention, and the circus began. But because the data had not transmitted, I suspect it would have been paid at the lower figure. But that's mere speculation, with obviously no way to ascertain what would actually have happened.

Â
Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

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From: Rprosdc <rprosdc@...>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Defective Meter Rate on Progressives

Wonder what the payoff would have been had someone "hit" while the $800
was not registering.
On Jun 25, 2013 10:18 PM, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > The interesting thing was that the progressive jumped up by over $800
> instantly as it apparently had stored the info, but just wasn't able to
> transmit it.
> >
>
> Thank you for that, that is VERY interesting. I never would have thought
> of that. VERY, interesting!
>
>Â
>

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